DanceDanceRevolution [PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii] - Page 54

Ashura96 · 11-18-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ranatalus

smart move

i threw mine away after less than half an hour

lol just get the simfiles then.

Fairy Red · 11-18-2009, 07:28 PM

Jeez, the fanboyism for those older DDRs is worse than GSC fanboys of the Pokemon fandom. D: Seriously, guys, they're not bad at all.

Kiri_No_Haku · 11-18-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairy Red

Jeez, the fanboyism for those older DDRs is worse than GSC fanboys of the Pokemon fandom. D: Seriously, guys, they're not bad at all.

We might have that bias, but that only shows that we have more experience at critiquing these newer games. I personally have something about each new arrival that I like, which even in the worst of games there are a few gems embedded somewhere in that game.

ranatalus · 11-18-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairy Red

Jeez, the fanboyism for those older DDRs is worse than GSC fanboys of the Pokemon fandom. D: Seriously, guys, they're not bad at all.

it isn't fanboyism; the newer DDRs are shitty in comparison

oOAsians2loveOo · 11-19-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairy Red

Jeez, the fanboyism for those older DDRs is worse than GSC fanboys of the Pokemon fandom. D: Seriously, guys, they're not bad at all.

I somewhat agree with you. the 'fanboys' or just 'hardcore' players are much harder to please. However, I think that we are only like that is because DDR has been around for 10+ years now and we are not seeing so much improvement in the recent years. I do give new DDR games a chance before I start dissing it off though.

Fairy Red · 11-19-2009, 06:58 PM

That may be so... But the only reason I can see about how "bad" these newer games is because they're different than what most of the older fans grew up with. The DDR games had to appeal to a newer crowd, a crowd that seems much nicer than these hardcore "fans", who are indeed very unpleaseable.

The games are still good as long as people continue to enjoy them and buy them. If these newer games were "bad" after SN, they would have stopped making them ages ago. No, if the games are still fun to bring in new and old DDRers, but still provide a challenge for newcomers like myself, then the newer games aren't terrible at all. I've seen some of the older DDRs, they're quite an eyesore to look at. The songs, yes, pretty good, but I think the newer ones sound way better. An updated interface, and HP brought new characters to freshen things up for Wii players.

It's one thing to expect a lot from a franchise you love, but it's just another to instantly dismiss these newer games as "not as good" as the older games. They might have been good in their own right, but I see vast improvements from those older DDRs, even from trying one SN arcade machine once. Like most other long-run games, they only continue to get better. There's still the hard and easy challenges for ALL gamers, casual and hardcore. There is something for everyone, which makes these games much better.

Kiri_No_Haku · 11-19-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairy Red

That may be so... But the only reason I can see about how "bad" these newer games is because they're different than what most of the older fans grew up with. The DDR games had to appeal to a newer crowd, a crowd that seems much nicer than these hardcore "fans", who are indeed very unpleaseable.

The games are still good as long as people continue to enjoy them and buy them. If these newer games were "bad" after SN, they would have stopped making them ages ago. No, if the games are still fun to bring in new and old DDRers, but still provide a challenge for newcomers like myself, then the newer games aren't terrible at all. I've seen some of the older DDRs, they're quite an eyesore to look at. The songs, yes, pretty good, but I think the newer ones sound way better. An updated interface, and HP brought new characters to freshen things up for Wii players.

It's one thing to expect a lot from a franchise you love, but it's just another to instantly dismiss these newer games as "not as good" as the older games. They might have been good in their own right, but I see vast improvements from those older DDRs, even from trying one SN arcade machine once. Like most other long-run games, they only continue to get better. There's still the hard and easy challenges for ALL gamers, casual and hardcore. There is something for everyone, which makes these games much better.

How the hell are we "unpleasable"? I loved the shit out of DDR Supernova and Supernova 2 when they first came out, despite the licenses in the US CS, but face it. X sucked shit, and X2 is going down that path unless it gets its act straight in the JP CS release, whenever that is.

It doesn't matter if they were "bad" after SN, since Konami would still sell them to newbies. Did you not notice all of the really famous pop, hip hop, rap, rock, etc songs that came starting from Supernova for the US? That was Konami trying to reach out to new players with all these licenses rather than going to dancemania licenses and other famous tracks that elder fans liked. And you are spewing out shit with "the older interfaces were shit." I'd prefer Extreme's "eyesore" of a classic green interface over X's laggy as shit cloud background and horrid announcer and that fail urban theme. And you seem to fail to notice that DDR started with an arcade and playstation. Have you honestly played the older CS games on the ps or ps2 and see the difference? You have bias, too, from being a newer player starting on HP, so don't say shit about us.

They continue to get better? Didn't X add shitty shock arrows and made it so that losing a freeze would break your combo? Supernova 2 also added marvelous, which is good in its own way for helping timing, yet it makes it almost impossible for a perfect score of 1,000,000. IF there is something for everyone, so that means stop complaining about our love for the older DDR.

Ashura96 · 11-19-2009, 08:57 PM

Yeah, I might be the only long time player who likes playing the newer versions more because of the "freshness" factor.

Kiri_No_Haku · 11-19-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashura96

Yeah, I might be the only long time player who likes playing the newer versions more because of the "freshness" factor.

Don't get me wrong. I do like the newer ones because the fact that they seem way more modern aka the new dancers and stages compared to a little 3D guy dancing across a background while also having a better detail period, but I thought X's theme sucked in general. It looks like the theme was upgraded at least in X2, but I'm still skeptical. Supernova and Supernova 2 were fine though in interface, but maybe it is just the pre-Supernova interfaces that still have me. : /

Fairy Red · 11-20-2009, 12:11 AM

Do those shock arrows have to be on? One can just turn them off if they're too difficult, right?

_____Cait · 11-20-2009, 12:15 AM

I think Supernova CS and Ex JP had the best themes. Mostly for nostalgia though.

X2 has a decent one though.

I'm curious if the guys bashing X2 have played X2 yet. I'm telling you guys, I was one of the first here to bash X2, and to call it out on a bad songlist when Pie-Kun first gave it to us.

Then I bought it and loved it. It might not be as good as the older mixes, but it is DEFINITELY a step in the right direction. Yeah, licenses might not be as good as the Dancemania days. The KO's are all pretty much solid, and personally remind me of the Paula Terry vocalist style days.

Yeah, I love the older mixes best, nothing will beat Ex JP in my eyes, but X2 is the right step that we needed after X.

ranatalus · 11-20-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairy Red

Do those shock arrows have to be on? One can just turn them off if they're too difficult, right?

no, there is no option to turn them off

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Originally Posted by _____Cait

I think Supernova CS and Ex JP had the best themes. Mostly for nostalgia though.

X2 has a decent one though.

I'm curious if the guys bashing X2 have played X2 yet. I'm telling you guys, I was one of the first here to bash X2, and to call it out on a bad songlist when Pie-Kun first gave it to us.

Then I bought it and loved it. It might not be as good as the older mixes, but it is DEFINITELY a step in the right direction. Yeah, licenses might not be as good as the Dancemania days. The KO's are all pretty much solid, and personally remind me of the Paula Terry vocalist style days.

Yeah, I love the older mixes best, nothing will beat Ex JP in my eyes, but X2 is the right step that we needed after X.

honestly, the KOs all felt really hollow and generic to me

yes, I did give it a chance. i played it for about half an hour and realized i had already played all the songs i wanted to play twice. pluto the first was old from hottest party 1 JP and the chart is not good (especially the oni chart) so i didn't care about getting good at it

the newer versions are made to cater to as broad an audience as possible, and thanks to that tend to be very very generic and less interesting to the people that liked what DDR was in the first place

I LOVE MY DAUGHTERS · 11-20-2009, 01:46 AM

DDR X2 and DDR SN1 are the only 2 us cs versions on any consol that I have yet to fully unlock. Im quite a ways through SN, but X2 I have 3 songs unlocked. Alot of the music is good and theres good charts, but theres just not enough there.

Ashura96 · 11-20-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairy Red

Do those shock arrows have to be on? One can just turn them off if they're too difficult, right?

Actually, you don't even have to play them, as all shock charts are only on the challenge difficulty.

Pie-kun · 11-20-2009, 02:02 AM

You almost essentially CAN turn them off since they're just copy+paste'd from one of the other difficulties. Just play that difficulty, haha.