ok guys once and for all

[deepbluevibes]

DDR is not a dance game.
seriously, it's not.

you hit arrows. no one follows arrows when they really dance, whether it's ballet, or hip hop, or even stupid shit such as freaking.

people who use the excuse that DDR is dancing or use that in an argument for "keeping DDR fun" are retards. DDR has never been about dancing, ok it's in the title, so?

In beatmania IIDX do I beat things times 2 deluxe?
in Pop n' music do I pop to the music?

a name is just a name.

i just made this because i'm tired of seeing that argument all over the place, and really the only way you "dance" on DDR is with freestyle, and even that is going with the arrows, so the only "dance" you can do is b-boy shit or some micheal jackson crap or knee drops and spins, etc.

95% of all freestyles i've seen worldwide are complete shit and you would get shot in a club for doing something as retarded as such. the other 5% are usually on an edit on the game where there's like four arrows or on a supremely easy song or not *even on the machine at all*.

anyone else agree that DDR has long been a "hit arrows game" and not about "dancing"?

[Victamone]

I voted its dance. It's more like Dance.

[Daniel]

Good luck on ending this "once and for all". I voted hitting the arrows. The game is still good either way.

You also forgot to mention that in Pump It Up you don't scratch a turntable.

[Victamone]

Thats why i voted DDR is like dancing. THESE GAMES ARE SIMULATION. There will never be a game that can directly simulate dancing. I know its nothing like dancing... but saying "its about hitting arrows" is not what konami would say it is. I dont really feel like even talking about this tho.. You've tryed to proove WAYYY too many points DBV.

IIDX isnt djing.. it's hitting keys. Guitar Freaks isnt playing guitar.. it simulates it. Drumania isnt playing the drums.. Its hitting pads with mallots.

[Juub005]

No, DDR is not the same thing as dancing, but dancing is on what DDR is based.

[sylcmyk+]

Originally Posted by Victamone

Thats why i voted DDR is like dancing. THESE GAMES ARE SIMULATION. Their will never be a game that can directly simulate dancing.

well what is dancing in the first place?

(me stupid like Godzilla and place bet on hitty arrow instead)

[Victamone]

Originally Posted by Paranoivm

well what is dancing in the first place?

(me stupid like Godzilla and place bet on hitty arrow instead)

That depends on what kind of dancing your talking about.

[theonecalledy2ckt]

as much as i love ddr, it really is more about moving in a specified pattern at all times. so it really isn't dancing.

[sylcmyk+]

Originally Posted by theonecalledy2ckt

...it really is more about moving in a specified pattern at all times. so it really isn't dancing.

I just searched up (what could be) a universal definition of dancing and this is what I got:

taking a series of rhythmical steps (and movements) in time to music
http://www.wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

if that's so then DDR should be considered actual dancing

(contradiciting the point that it actually is supposed to simulate dancing too)

[Monster in a box]

It's not about dancing. If it were, I'd hate it.

Though I guess it depends on how you look at it. For instance, I wouldn't enjoy a 'forcing people into a pit of death' simulator, yet Super Smash Bros. Melee is one of my favorite games. I worded that horribly, but you know what I mean (I hope).

[Tsuteto]

Depends all on the person's view of it. It's both, in all reality.

When DDR originally started, it could've been more dancing. But now the community wants something that's difficult, not something that's "free range". Example: I play DMX. Not because it's about getting the highest score, but because I can be a lot more "fluid" when I play it. Heaven is a '57 Metallic Gray on Wild I have a small little "routine" to, per se.

I could just as easily take a number of the 7 footers and make a dance, though it wouldn't look too good really. The higher the footings, the higher the limitations, because of the higher steps you must press.

Like I said, it's perspective. At least, it is to me. Whining back and forth does nothing. Some people see it as a dance, some people see it as just hitting arrows. When you go to imagine yourself doing something in your head, some people will see themselves out of their bodies, and others will see themselves doing the action within their bodies. You going to try and state whether one is right or wrong?

Everything has limitations, even dance. If you screw up a small pirouette in ballet, then it's not considered actual ballet. If you can't make a pique (Pronounced P K), then it's still not dancing.

Probably the most defined dances would be those of Ballroom. But even then, people still add their own "flare" to it.

Dancing is not free-form. It still has it's limitations. Of course, there are things that can be done free-form and still be considered dancing. Like if I just pointed to you, then pointed to you with my other hand. That could be a part of dance, but people would just go WTF and walk off.

Woo, quite the rant from me. Yay?

[shungokusatsu]

It's not really dancing, especially when I see people play hard songs DDR while grabbing the bar, as if people dance while grappling a chair or table in a nightclub or something. It's more like exercise than dancing.

[ANGRY ABOUT ENGLISH]

I've referred to DDR, ITG, and PIU as "Arrow-stomping Simulations" for years now, and I'm going to continue to do so, damnit.

[HioMrSan]

I voted stomping arrows. Its the same things as IIDX. IIDX is a "DJ Simulation", but of course no one really thinks its supposed to replicate what its like being a real DJ.

[Victamone]

In all technical terms, you guys are all right. It is just stomping arrows. But I just voted anything DBV DOESNT want us to vote on. He starts too much nonesense.