03-18-2009, 06:12 PM
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#16 | | //bemanistyle::[Regular]
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Marketplace Rating: 1 | I don't know why 888 is supposedly so hard. It should be around 17-18ish.
Also, the only thing that seems really hard about NGO Oni are those damn airs.
P.S. What is the best rated pad video on DEGRES so far? XD I saw a B but that was pretty much it. That song deserves a 19-20 if it ever goes that far.
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03-18-2009, 10:06 PM
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#17 | | Underage Technology Addict
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | No, Saber Wing Headshot mix is a 17. I've full comboed it. Looking at 888 Oni, it looks to me like the worst parts of Paranoia Hades and Pluto Relinquish combined. Definitely no less than a high 18. I doubt I'd even pass it. | |
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03-19-2009, 03:55 AM
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#18 | | KeYboArDcrAsHer SuperNOVA
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Originally Posted by MdX MaxX What? You're putting NGO Oni on the same level as The legend of MAX? (it's a 16 on the new scale right?)
NGO Oni is undoubtedly the most retarded stepchart ever in the history of DDR (other than DEGRS). That thing's no less than an 18 for sure, at least for me. What's it's official rating? | It's actually 18. Yeah, you're right. However, one thing that made it an 18 is that it has too many jump steps even though it has a lesser stream level in the groove radar so that's why I don't want to make it an 18.
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03-19-2009, 05:29 AM
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#19 | | - The Kanji Kid -
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | So it looks like none of the new X-Specials will break the 18 barrier as of yet (unless theres a Doubles X-Special chart that hasn't been played yet)
There may be no 19/20's in the end after all, but knowing Konami...
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03-19-2009, 06:32 AM
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#20 | | Bemani Music Lover
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | Maybe the rating system is just 1 to 18. I suppose.
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03-19-2009, 07:57 AM
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#21 | | OMG Its Kon 0_o
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Originally Posted by Jops Maybe the rating system is just 1 to 18. I suppose. | Thats what I have been saying this whole time. people just jump to conclusions because 18 is a "odd number", as in its not 20 or 100 or something like you would think it would be. Its sort of like beatmania I suppose, because that rating system only goes to 12. I am not saying there wont be a 19 or 20, maybe there is, but as of right now all we can say is the system goes to 18. | |
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03-19-2009, 02:01 PM
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#22 | | HIGH GUARANTEE DJ
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Originally Posted by ΩOMEGAΩ Thats what I have been saying this whole time. people just jump to conclusions because 18 is a "odd number" | Stop being arrogant, did you even read my post on page 1? Quote: |
While we haven't seen any official 19 or 20 rated stepcharts yet, the ratings DO exist because in DDR X Edit Mode you can give your edit a rating, from 1-20.
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03-19-2009, 07:46 PM
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#23 | | OMG Its Kon 0_o
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Originally Posted by Ashura96 Stop being arrogant, did you even read my post on page 1? | Sorry, I did not catch that post. I should be saying "official stepcharts will never reach 20" or something. With Edit Data you make anything any number, even ones that Konami would consider harder then 18 I guess. | |
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03-21-2009, 07:44 PM
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#24 | | //bemanistyle::[User]
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Originally Posted by ΩOMEGAΩ Thats what I have been saying this whole time. people just jump to conclusions because 18 is a "odd number", as in its not 20 or 100 or something like you would think it would be. Its sort of like beatmania I suppose, because that rating system only goes to 12. | Visually though, it's a 1-20 scale. If they meant for it to be a 1-18 scale, there should've only been 9 bars with red overlapping them for 10 and above. It only seems right that there should be an official 20 in the game.
DEGRS isn't hard enough to be a 19. Its really not that hard compared to some other songs like FELMO and PHO, it's just infamous for being dumb and not well constructed at all. 888 Oni might be able to pass as a low 19. | |
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03-21-2009, 08:52 PM
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#25 | | OMG Its Kon 0_o
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Originally Posted by -Viper- Visually though, it's a 1-20 scale. If they meant for it to be a 1-18 scale, there should've only been 9 bars with red overlapping them for 10 and above. It only seems right that there should be an official 20 in the game.
DEGRS isn't hard enough to be a 19. Its really not that hard compared to some other songs like FELMO and PHO, it's just infamous for being dumb and not well constructed at all. 888 Oni might be able to pass as a low 19. | yes, however 888's chart is passable because the chart is not terrible like DEGRS. I do agree that it would be either a 17 or 18 though. | |
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03-22-2009, 05:25 PM
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#26 | | //bemanistyle::[Regular]
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Marketplace Rating: 1 | I have played 888 about 10 times and realised that the chaos of the streams will make it at least a high 17 or low 18. I can conclude, with the rest of the song, that it should be a medium to high 18 footer. (That song's strems are too queer)
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03-22-2009, 06:26 PM
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#27 | | mania
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Originally Posted by ΩOMEGAΩ no 18. I dont think its even possible to get a AA or full Combo Dead End Groove Radar Special, but I can full combo 888. Plus as far as anyone knows, the rating only goes to 18, dont be saying it goes to 20, when there has been no proof. I know its strange that its 18 and not 20 (right now), but am still sticking with DDR X's rating system being a 18. oh, and I would give 888 a 17. | Oh my god, shut up. You're completely retarded.
The rating system is 1-20. It's not 1-10, 1-18, or 1-23498723. It's 1-20. Just because they are showing foresight in leaving room for songs to be harder without lumping them all together at a single number doesn't mean they won't ever make anything that hard.
Can you stop posting stupid shit at some point
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03-22-2009, 08:44 PM
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#28 | | Lightning Swordsman
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03-23-2009, 09:22 AM
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#29 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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Originally Posted by Raikou Rider | Where are all the BPM gimmicks? Konami wouldn't dare adopt that chart. | |
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03-23-2009, 11:15 AM
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#30 | | //bemanistyle::[Regular]
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Originally Posted by DAVE101 Where are all the BPM gimmicks? Konami wouldn't dare adopt that chart. | In my opinion
As hard as it looks (more like something out of a IIDX notechart), it is far from a 20....
Needs something more complex than that 
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