what do you think a 20 footer song is

[「dj.TK」]

Theres already a few song that have 200bpm 16th runs, and there aren't many crossovers, and the rest of the song is simple enough (no BPM changes to consist with), so I'd say hat Go Beyond chart is more of a Hard 18-Easy 19.

What blackraven said.

[Kσn]

Originally Posted by Blackraven

In my opinion

As hard as it looks (more like something out of a IIDX notechart), it is far from a 20....

Needs something more complex than that

Agreed.

I think eruption would be at least a 20 however...
YouTube - JDongs Eruption 1st pass shitty score
Screen view- YouTube - Eruption AAA 26 Perfects - DJRiDDeR WR?

And if thats not a 20, I dont know what is (stream-wise).

[DAVE101]

Originally Posted by ΩOMEGAΩ

Agreed.

I think eruption would be at least a 20 however...

Even though there is no set standard for what a 19-20 foot chart would be. Any ITG scale 14 or 15 would qualify. You don't need to go as far as say eruption (rated 16)

[Kσn]

Originally Posted by DAVE101

Even though there is no set standard for what a 19-20 foot chart would be. Any ITG scale 14 or 15 would qualify. You don't need to go as far as say eruption (rated 16)

lol I know, it was just for laughs.

If you are going to say a 20 in DDR is a ITG 14/15, I can see myself agreeing to that since almost no songs ever get as streamy and tiring like those songs. I dont think its very well possible to even pass a song like that on a DDR machine though for 2 reasons
-life bar (stricter after every stage)
-Arcade pads not being constructed as well as ITG's

[Zemata]

I still fail to see how we get bullshit like 888, Trigger, FELM, Pluto Relinquish and still not MAX. (Period)

[Kiri_No_Haku]

Yeah, I'm still wondering why there's PARANOiA ~Respect~ from Party Collection yet still no Max.(Period) from Extreme? BS?

[Hajje]

i guess a 20 footer would have a negative bpm or something

[ranatalus]

hajje shut up, ddr isn't stepmania

also omega: newer, betson-contrstucted pads are awful. konami pads are still decent when properly maintained

[Kσn]

Originally Posted by ranatalus

also omega: newer, betson-contrstucted pads are awful. konami pads are still decent when properly maintained

Ya, I know. I have played on a official Konami cabinet before, but only a few times before the arcade went out. Since Konami is making the cabinets this time around, I hope to see a improvement on the pads.

[「dj.TK」]

Originally Posted by 白の霧

Yeah, I'm still wondering why there's PARANOiA ~Respect~ from Party Collection yet still no Max.(Period) from Extreme? BS?

Why do you need Konami original songs?

[ranatalus]

Originally Posted by 白の霧

Yeah, I'm still wondering why there's PARANOiA ~Respect~ from Party Collection yet still no Max.(Period) from Extreme? BS?

konami thinks max period is too dangerous (but apparently pluto relinquish oni is ok)

[BITCH I LOOK LIKE GOKU]

Originally Posted by ranatalus

also omega: newer, betson-contrstucted pads are awful. konami pads are still decent when properly maintained

I got way higher scores on Supernova 1 upgrade kits than I did on Supernova 1 dedicabs, so yeah, I get what you mean.

What changed between them anyway? It seems like Supernova/Supernova 2 dedicab pads have more give than Extreme cabs did.

Unless you played on a Korean cab, those things were pieces of shit.

[ranatalus]

betson likely tried to cut whatever corners they could to save money on costs and maximize profits which is normal for companies to do; unfortunately they just did it in the wrong areas so that it was noticable

[DragTheCigaretteKing]

Originally Posted by ΩOMEGAΩ

lol I know, it was just for laughs.

-life bar (stricter after every stage)

Didn't they remove the progressive lifebar and left the lifebar normal in DDR X?

[ranatalus]

yes, they did