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Old 07-12-2009, 04:22 PM   #1
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Question What songs have gimmick charts?

What songs do you think are just there for a certain gimmick in the chart somewhere, or something unusual prevalalent throughout the song?
I'm talking about stuff like:

Ska A Go Go (gimmick: final only-looks-hard run)
bag (gimmick: slow)
Chaos (gimmick: stops)
Dance Dance Revolution Oni (gimmick: "best-of" chart)
Horatio Oni (gimmick: ya know, those trills and the wierd instrument)
Across the Nightmare and Least 100sec (beta only, they were intended to be the first stupid-hard charts, like Mendes is for IIDX, but now they're just messy)

Stuff you either love or hate. Any more like these?
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Old 07-12-2009, 06:14 PM   #2
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SKA a go go is only a "gimmick" in the sense that the chart for that song in every Bemani game ever has the exact same ending (see: YouTube - beatmania 2ndMIX - SKA a go go and also the Pop'n chart has the stupid ending as well)

Aside from that, basically just bag, SAKURA, and various boss songs

I don't consider step patterns to be "gimmicky", only the fact that the song is easy but they did something stupid like make the song very fast/slow and introduce random stops to make it more difficult
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:30 PM   #3
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introduce random stops to make it more difficult
See, they had something potentially awesome with Chaos, in my opinion. I love songs that can pull off "Stop, go, stop, go" kind of charts. Some of my favorite charts ever at least have sections like this.

If they hadn't of gone buck-wild with the stops in Chaos and only stopped it when it sounded like it would fit well (see the breakdown with the "tick tick tick" kind of hihat in it), it would have been a really, really fun chart for me.

I still think it's a fun chart, but it could have been pulled off much better.
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:01 PM   #4
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Uranus Oni: It said it was a 10 and I tried it but it felt like a hard 8 or a 9. I honestly thought it was going to be something like Xepher oni.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:12 AM   #5
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Uranus Oni: It said it was a 10 and I tried it but it felt like a hard 8 or a 9. I honestly thought it was going to be something like Xepher oni.
That's not really a gimmick.

I'd think SMMM for Trip Machine is a stop gimmick like Chaos. There aren't really too many gimmick songs. There are a few with like nothing but freeze arrows. (in love wit you) bag, of course, is slow as crap and very gimmicky. I'd say Pluto is also kind of like SN2's Chaos. Horratio is a given for those annoying trills. There are some others, but gimmicks don't really come to mind when I play songs.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:41 AM   #6
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Any level 10 boss song, except for Xepher, has had a gimmick in it. MAX300 has 573 steps to combo; MAXX Unlimited and Sakura have several BPM changes to throw you off guard; LoM reaches a maximum of 666 BPM; bag's BPM is halved, making the notes difficult to read on 1x; the PARANOiA survivor series has a lot of BPM changes in it, with the Oni chart having a ridiculous deathrun; CHAOS has been covered above; the Fascination series has a BPM range from 100 to 200 to 400, as does Pluto Relinquish (gets as high as 800, I think?). The list goes on and on.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:28 PM   #7
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in the old system where jumps were worth 2 combo 321 stars had 321 combo :O
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:26 AM   #8
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Dead End Groove Radar Special, in the sense that it utilizes the whole groove radar, I think.

Or Concertino in Blue.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:31 AM   #9
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Probably Fascination Maxx I guess

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Dead End Groove Radar Special, in the sense that it utilizes the whole groove radar, I think.
Yup, nothing says gimmicky and retarded like Dead End GRS. But hey, on another note, I guess they've gotta create stuff like this (to keep the pros from continuing the game). Otherwise, that would give them more reason to quit once they beat every possible song on the highest possible difficulty ever.

Just my two cents on this
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:32 PM   #10
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Or Concertino in Blue.
The GFDM chart copypasta!!
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:39 PM   #11
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What songs do you think are just there for a certain gimmick in the chart somewhere, or something unusual prevalalent throughout the song?
I'm talking about stuff like:

Ska A Go Go (gimmick: final only-looks-hard run)
bag (gimmick: slow)
Chaos (gimmick: stops)
Dance Dance Revolution Oni (gimmick: "best-of" chart)
Horatio Oni (gimmick: ya know, those trills and the wierd instrument)
Across the Nightmare and Least 100sec (beta only, they were intended to be the first stupid-hard charts, like Mendes is for IIDX, but now they're just messy)

Stuff you either love or hate. Any more like these?
You're talking about gimmicks in charts, not gimmmick charts. I was gonna say the only ones I can think of are the _ Special charts from SN2 like Air and Groove Radar on SP and DP. Gimmick charts are pretty rare in bemani games, but if you go to o2jam and some other less prefessional-looking games you can find quite a few of them. Dance Dance Rev Oni would also be a gimmick chart I guess.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:06 PM   #12
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You guys seem to forget Frozen Ray?

Make A Jam! has the Konami code in it, if I recall.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:10 PM   #13
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That's because the whole song is based on Konami's (at the time) jingle. The background has the Konami logo in it, too.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:12 PM   #14
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Twin Bee also has the code in it as well I believe.
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Old 07-15-2009, 05:06 PM   #15
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Twin Bee also has the code in it as well I believe.
Doesn't 30 lives do that too?
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