G4 Is At It Again

[MAIcrosoft]

well the least i could do is posting some video responses on the beatmaia review ~ .~);;' I hope many people sees them and change their minds.... If someone else has iidx videos on youtube, please also video response! : D

[DoctorFedora]

O HAY GUYZ LETS ALL SEND ANGRY EMAILS TO G4 THAT ARE FULL OF BAD SPELLING AND GRAMMAR MISTAKES

[TheFlyingSquirrel]

1. Dood how did you get around the caps filter?
2. How VERY original your post is .
3. Unfortunately, YOUR post's sarcasm is RIGHT ON. How sad.

[dougk_ff7]

Yeah, good luck having them try to review a game which many people can't play, simply because there isn't a machine anywhere nearby... DMX is cool, it can look insanely strange (especially when people try to breakdance with it or with Para Para--I've seen this done, and it's not pretty always)... but meh.

Anyway, with the comment, are they legally liable for what they say? Yes. Slander/libel is not protected speech (my guess would be this could be interpreted as libel--a false written statement since it's journalism, but since I'm not a lawyer, well, who knows. I don't.) They could potentially be liable for the comments that discriminate based on sexual orientation, race, or disability. If nothing else, it's simply bad and irresponsible journalism. It's sensationalism, just trying to get a story that sells, but that doesn't justify it. Still, ultimatums aren't the way to convince them to stop--in the end, that only weakens your argument, since it could be seen as, "Oh yeah? Well, then put your money where your mouth is and sue me."

Also, with the line of comments regarding the bias toward US-created games, it doesn't seem like they're being racist (i.e. making a comment that is derogatory in nature regarding the race or ethnicity), and though there is a bias, it seems to be more of an example of ethnocentrism. In other words, it's as if they're saying America is better than Japan, if you'll excuse the very crude oversimplification. Perhaps it's not intended at all, although it does appear that way.

Regarding music selection:
1) BMUS's music selection wasn't the greatest in the world. The songs they picked to license for the "mainstream" US audience were not the best choices in the world.
2) Eurobeat is European, and yes, Italy is a major music production center as far as dance music. I think the comment back on p.5 was referring to Super Eurobeat, which also is generally Italian-produced, although for more or less exclusive consumption in Japan. Avex licenses this stuff since it happens to be popular--after all, why does the Super Eurobeat series exist? And it's still going strong at well over 160 albums.
3) Yes, many songs (American or not) have VERY dirty references in them. Did you hear those lyrics right?

CStarFlare/MadRolol did have a valid point, that yes, they could simply be trolling to anger as many people as possible, although this isn't an effective way to host a show. djparanoia brought up that they do this with most games, which means that there must be a lot of angry people out there. Yet why are they still on the air? I don't know, you tell me.

Oh, and back to the Madden comment: actually, the latest version (well, review that I saw on YouTube) did get a 3/5 rating. But, the comment, as you might guess, "It really doesn't matter what we give this, since hey, you'll buy it anyway." So it's perhaps not as bad as some make it out to be, granted there is a lot of misinformation.

Anyway, that about sums it up from me. Please, if you're going to write a response to the show, PLEASE do as djparanoia asked and write a concise, clear argument, and don't be threatening or belligerant. Your communication with them will reflect upon the community as a whole, so please make as good of an impression as possible and be professional, while still stating your disagreements.

That's it from me.
-dougk_ff7

[TheFlyingSquirrel]

If you e-mail, PLEASE, uh, speell rite.

Bee sure to uses well gramar two.

[I AM THE PROPHECY.]

Originally Posted by dougk_ff7

MadRolol

MIDNIGHTREALISM: OUT LOUD

[MHYoshimitzu]

I take these sort of reviews with a grain of salt.

Sure, it was a bad review, but to those who actually believed the review and will go out and judge those who play Bemani games based on the merits of a review on G4? Those people are the real morons. The same kind of people who consistently say that certain video games suck because they don't like them.

I know one person who said Disgaea was crap because it had bad graphics and looked like a SNES game. Did he play it? No. He judged it based on its looks and missed out on a good game. Sucks for him. He thinks the same about the Wii; he thinks it's going to suck because there are no games on it he likes. I, on the other hand, will enjoy my Wii at launch playing Trauma Center, Twilight Princess, and Wii Sports.

I play DDR fairly frequently. People always seem to comment on how moronic I look while playing it. Do I look moronic playing it? Sure. Do gamers also look moronic as they're being immersed in a first person shooter to non-gamer on-lookers behind them? Of course. It's all a matter of perspective.

Play DDR. Play beatmania. Play Pop'N. Play Guitar Freaks. Play Para Para. Play what you want, and don't let others tell you otherwise. People who base their opinions in reviews shown on a video game channel on TV without going out and doing their own research don't deserve to be listened to. Don't let it bother you.

[「dj.TK」]

Originally Posted by DoctorFedora

O HAY GUYZ LETS ALL SEND ANGRY EMAILS TO G4 THAT ARE FULL OF BAD SPELLING AND GRAMMAR MISTAKES

Sorry, who are you again?

[Lvng]

What'll they do when they see Dance Dance...

Then again, I don't like that concept either.

[dj ralph]

First, I'd like to thank Eddie for putting this on the front page so everyone could see it, and take it for what they did. I do not agree with some of the opinions posted here, but I did send them an e-mail, a letter, and plan on calling tomorrow.

Here's the letter:

Dear G4 TV,
I am writing as a concerned gamer. I was recently pointed toward your reviews of beatmania and ParaParaParadise by a friend. These reviews painted a grim picture of the two games in question. While I can respect your opinion that you did not enjoy these two games, I cannot respect nor will I tolerate your inflammatory and rude comments about the games and the people who play them.
In this letter, I would like to address some issues you brought up in your review, and then dispel them with less opinionated, more factual information.
In both reviews, you presume that all players of Bemani/rhythm games are introverted or pasty white nerdy kids. I have met many people who play a wide variety of rhythm games, and few, if any of them fit that description. The fact is that gamers come from all walks of life, and rhythm games, in particular, attract anyone who loves music. This, of course, could be virtually anyone alive, I don't know anyone who doesn't love music.
In your ParaParaParadise (henceforth referred to as PPP) review, you incorrectly label para para dancing as a craze. It has actually been a dancing style mainly popular in Japan for around thirty years now, and is certainly did not go the way of the Macarena.
Towards the beginning of the review, you state that the game is pointless and inane. This might be said of any game, but particularly one you don't like. Please try to remember that some people like different things. One viewer might have seen the game in action and found the gameplay appealing. One might have seen it and thought it looked boring.
You state that American gamers are not as stylish as the Japanese. Style is not only an individual trait, but it is also purely opinion. An actor or singer you might find appealing might seem dull or unattractive to me. While the dance originated in Japan, many para para dancers from around the globe are quite proficient at it.
You show a short clip of people demonstrating other types of dances. I am not clear as to why this was done. The game is about para para dancing, and other styles of dancing cannot be incorporated, like in Dance Dance Revolution. Perhaps you could show clips of those styles of dancing in a DDR review, for a freestyle segment, but para para is a strictly organized dance, and is usually performed with other people, so breaking away from what's supposed to be done wouldn't make sense.
At one point in the review, you show clips of people playing certain songs, and proclaim those songs to be bad songs. Again, you are entitled to your opinion. But perhaps you could have then shown clips of songs you enjoyed on the game, or simply said that the one style of music on the game is Eurobeat, and that if you aren't a fan of Eurobeat, you will probably not like much of the music.
One part of the review was exceptionally rude to paraplegics. Especially in journalism, making jokes at a group's expense is frowned on, and is certainly not professional. It is wonderful that we have the right to free speech in our nation, but try to remember that people have feelings. On another note, para para dancing involves footwork, most of which involves a very simple pattern of facing the same direction and stepping side to side, but can be more complex in some cases.
Finally, at one point during the review, you say that it is the year 2006, and people should get over it. In the context during the review, I couldn't tell what this was referring to, but I will say that PPP came out in 2000, and had its last update in 2001. Perhaps a more timely review would be appropriate, and heeding your own words.
I was, truthfully disgusted by both reviews. They were not researched well, and your beatmania review featured little footage of the game being played correctly at all, leading me to believe that you didn't even try to learn the game's mechanics before you passed judgement on it.
I would like you to recall these reviews, and apologize to not only the rhythm game community, but also to paraplegics, on your television program and on your website. If you would like to, record another review, but try to record one that simply states the facts about the games, and then offers your personal opinion at the end, much like I have in this letter. Professional journalism relies on facts, not opinions.
Thank you for reading this letter, and I hope to see an apology and/or a more professional review soon. Have a nice day.

Sincerely,
Ralph Caffery

[モネ?]

Ralph wins for best e-mail(not just because I know him), because it's actually spelled correctly and makes prefect sense.Will G4 listen is another story. I'm learning towards no, too many pre-teens would get angry if they did.

[Geschpooklichkeit]

I tried my hand at one of those messages.

I'm going to put my message in a way that you can relate.

Put together every response you have recieved regarding your reviews of beatmania and ParaParaParadise.
Read the most insulting and offensive message you have recieved.
Think of something 573 times more insulting and offensive. That would be my response.

Signed,
James A. Calwell III

[TougaKiryuu]

Originally Posted by seiya256

I'm appalled that only one person in this thread has spelled appalled properly.

Tch,dood! It was like 5 in the morning when I wrote that up.. possibly earlier e.e; but I'll make sure to not spell appalled incorrectly again

Anyways, I as well wrote them and am boycotting their network indefinately until the community gets an appology. Not much else that I can do, but I leaned a little more towards DJP's points than straight up GRR ANGER SMASH!!!

[I AM THE PROPHECY.]

Originally Posted by MHYoshimitzu

He thinks the same about the Wii; he thinks it's going to suck because there are no games on it he likes.

Uh yeah that's pretty much the definition of a console that sucks

If he doesn't like any of the available games--which is an acceptable way to feel, since for two years I stayed well clear of the XBox--why the fuck would he play it

[dougk_ff7]

Originally Posted by MadRoll

MIDNIGHTREALISM: OUT LOUD

Originally Posted by CStarFlare

-Like MadRolol said, X-Play is trolling you guys and succeeding

Blame CStarFlare, he said it first... and I had no clue who he was talking about, nor did I really care to go back through 7 pages of text to figure it out. (Yes, I now see that your post was on the same page. So what. I didn't make the connection.)