Can sorta double pick...but doing it on Agnus Dei is impossible.. help?

[Lost_One]

Although I am not going to see our local v3 machine for the next 8 to 10 weeks, the last thing I ever played was Agnus Dei, which I lasted for just a bit over 50 seconds on Light. MY double picking question is just, well using thumb and index/forefingers, why can't I keep up? I can double pick basic-advanced dragon blade and desert rose, but on light so it's only mediocre, and only when I need to not the whole song... Normally I space my fingers out from below the pick so that they aren't touching it and I'm not just holding on to it, but does that become necessary? Does the controller quality count? We have a v3 machine with 5 year old guitar which has v3 stickers, so would the pick sensor be slightly hypersensitive to double picking?

Do all songs after Agnus Dei require double picking?

Sorry for the poorly worded questions...thanks.

[aeriyu]

Originally Posted by Lost_One

Although I am not going to see our local v3 machine for the next 8 to 10 weeks, the last thing I ever played was Agnus Dei, which I lasted for just a bit over 50 seconds on Light. MY double picking question is just, well using thumb and index/forefingers, why can't I keep up?

There's nothing wrong with your technique because I do the same thing. You just need to get used to doublepicking, that's all -- try tapping your foot to the beat. Best thing you could do is to "flick" the upwards pick with your index finger to simulate a downpick so that it feels like you're downpicking the whole song.

I can double pick basic-advanced dragon blade and desert rose, but on light so it's only mediocre, and only when I need to not the whole song... Normally I space my fingers out from below the pick so that they aren't touching it and I'm not just holding on to it, but does that become necessary?

You should never have to hold your pick. Doing so decreases your playing accuracy

Does the controller quality count? We have a v3 machine with 5 year old guitar which has v3 stickers, so would the pick sensor be slightly hypersensitive to double picking?

Controller quality matters so much as it being an additional hurdle to your playing -- do you get mispicks, do the frets not work? That's gonna make your scoring a little bit harder...

Aside from that, the only things that I could think of are stiff fret buttons and an "overused" pick. The latter loses the "springiness" of a normal pick and tends to act more like the KOC's pick... which I personally prefer, but takes getting used to.

Do all songs after Agnus Dei require double picking?

You will eventually have to doublepick because it's almost humanly impossible to downpick some of them (ie: the 99s, DDs, Forever Free... XD)

Take your time learning to doublepick though -- doublepicking allows you to play those songs, but your downpicking accuracy still determines your score

[oni-ice]

Dun play light. You wouldn't know where you got wrong.

[Skydazer]

i'm using the same technique too. Anw a 5 yr old guitarfreaks machine should have a pretty season-ed pick by now so i think double picking on that kind of controller should be quite easy.

Never hold your pick like what aeriyu said, it generally decreases your accuracy. I said generally cos there's a jap player (OMEGAMAX) who can MAX black sheep EXT by holding the pick during the last part of the song.


But i think doublepicking, you really need to get used to it. You have to find the most comfortable way to DP.

[[x]Pepe[x]]

Are you even sure it's the double picking that's the problem? Maybe it's your fingerwork? Agnus has pretty hard fingerwork on the frets...


But if you're sure it's the picking, I guess the only thing I could tell you is to follow the beat. Download MP3s and listen to the song. Or better yet, play it on Drummania to get the beat! XD