Konami Official Drummania Controller

Trip Machina · 10-30-2007, 01:03 AM

Hey everyone, I've been recently wanting to play the Drummania side of my GFDM games and I was wondering about the Official Konami Drummania Controller.

I've read many many things about the foamy bass pedal and stuff, but I really need to know.....is it really THAT bad? Can it be worked around without modding it? I remember in the arcades how pressing the bass pedal felt (like a real one lol), but it has been a while anywayz.

I don't plan on getting the DTX/expensive-type drum sets for this game right now; I'm overly interested in opinions and information regarding the DM KOC. Is it the next best thing to playing DM on Dual Shock?

defiled · 10-30-2007, 07:38 AM

If all I had was the KOC, I would not even play at all.

Think about it this way - if Drummania was originally designed to be played like that, would you have liked it?

***red shoe paul*** · 10-30-2007, 08:43 AM

Don't waste your money. The thing is garbage. The sticks suck, bass pedal and the overall set up.

Ztype · 10-30-2007, 09:51 AM

The KOC is not good at all. If you really want to play save up for a DTX, or wait until DJ Dao is done with his ASC. Trust me you won't regret waiting until you have enough money.

AdamW · 10-30-2007, 09:55 AM

yeah. it's just crap. you *can* play quite well on it, but even if you learn to do that - it's just not any fun, because you're always concentrating on working around the controller rather than playing the game. Get a Dao ASC or move to somewhere you can play the arcade.

Brazoliange · 10-30-2007, 03:22 PM

What everyone else said. Haha. It honestly is not worth the money and will turn you off of DrumMania.

***June.H*** · 10-30-2007, 07:46 PM

If you're a low-mid level player, I think it's actually not that bad for $80. I even learned how to do a lot of upper level songs on the tiny thing (and adjusting from KOC to arcade wasn't really that hard when I actually got to play on one). Adjusting from arcade to KOC is hard though...if you're used to playing on the arcade, don't bother, you'll hate the KOC. Also, if you're already playing upper level songs on the arcade, then yes, the KOC will suck.

But I attribute most of my DM learning from a KOC.

noisy doll☆ · 10-31-2007, 05:03 AM

Might I add that sticks really are not a big deal to replace. You can spend as little or as much as you like on a new pair of drumsticks at your local music store, and it won't be hard to find a pair of sticks that feels good to you. We had a thread on this board about sticks and what peoples' preferences are, but it's a personal matter so I would recommend that thread just to give you suggestions. In any case, nobody should ever complain about being stuck with the shitty sticks that come with the controller, because it's practically a non-issue.

That being said, I have never had the chance to play on a KOC, but I would imagine that until you get some serious chops you'll probably be alright. If you're looking for low-commitment, why not go with this cheapest option and then sell it to someone else if you decide that you want something better?

AdamW · 10-31-2007, 09:35 AM

"That being said, I have never had the chance to play on a KOC, but I would imagine that until you get some serious chops you'll probably be alright"

as already mentioned, the point isn't that you *can't* play well on a KOC, it's just no fun.

It's also not a good idea to use regular sticks on a KOC / Topway, as they use fairly soft plastic pads that can easily be broken by the heavier hitting of regular length wooden sticks.

Trip Machina · 10-31-2007, 11:25 PM

Wow....and I thought I was expecting rather uplifting remarks about the DM KOC; I guess it really is THAT bad especially when people say that they'd rather not play the game at all if they only had a DM KOC.

I honestly had my eyes on the DM KOC w/stand+ DM1st bundle for $200+, but seeing NOBODY supporting the DM KOC (except on Play-Asia's comment section on it) here, I guess I'll have to wait until dj dao's DM ASC is ready in production and distribution.

I've played in the arcades and I've enjoyed it alot and I realize the size difference (KOC vs AC), but I thought that most people would get used to it like the pop'n mini...guess not for DM's KOC. =/

Opethian · 11-01-2007, 08:30 AM

well its not that bad to start out but you will hit a point where you realize if you could play cross handed it would be much easier
i mean funky sonic world EXT on a KOC drum is just wrong heh
plus Timepiece Phase II is awkward on a KOC since the snare>hi hat> cymbal transitions are just strange to me playing open handed

in the end you will want to either play at an arcade or get a DTX or you wont get any better

Trip Machina · 11-02-2007, 01:15 PM

OK, despite unpopular demand, I've decided to get the DM KOC because I want to give it a try and perhaps get as good as possible (break boundaries) on this thing, as it's the most affordable route 80s that I could take. XD

CStarFlare and some guy on YouTube (search "DM KOC") got really decent on it, so I want to give it a try. My only thing is.........where the heck would I find a 3" stand for it. x_x

***June.H*** · 11-02-2007, 06:23 PM

If you're getting the $200 one with DM 1st Mix, it comes with a stand, so you don't have to worry about it. If you're getting the $80 one, then you'll have to worry a little.

Trip Machina · 11-05-2007, 11:23 PM

Yeah, I've decided to go with the one without the stand...I think I could make something at home for cheaper.

Saber-san · 11-06-2007, 12:06 AM

Unfortunately for me I bought this thing hoping it would be decent and all. One of the worst spendings I made. I probably played it like twice and now it just sits there collecting dust. I'm hoping djdao will make a bunch of dm asc's and get that instead.