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Old 02-18-2008, 06:21 PM   #1
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Well, I bought a new tv, I thought it was time to upgrade.. so I bought myself a nice LG 42 inch LCD tv. I was pretty happy with it until I went to play drummania.. I cannot for the life of me get the lag set up right, I've tried experimenting and I tried letting it judge it for me and I am still out of luck..

I'm not very good at drummania, but I mean I can pass alot of the songs except for the hardest ones on advance and some songs on extreme, but I can't do it at ALL now
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:54 PM   #2
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You should have bought a CRT instead...
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:17 AM   #3
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If the TV can't be adjusted to the point where GFDM timing is close to 0, I suggest taking it back / using a responsive display. There are decently fast LCDs available.

Also, for getting the note position correct with Timing Adjust, I think it's better to try a setting and play the game for a while, then change if needed.
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Old 02-19-2008, 03:01 AM   #4
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What did you do with your old TV? When I upgraded to HD, I realized that I was pretty much boned on any rhythm games, so I took my old TV, stuck it in my closet and hooked up my import PS2 to it for continued Bemani goodness. I figured it was worth having an entire TV set dedicated to GF/DM...
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Old 02-19-2008, 11:24 AM   #5
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it got moved upstairs cause it was a 36 inch tv and there was no room in my basement, so i mean, i could haul my ps2 and electronic drums upstairs, it'd just be a giant pain in the ass, i'll try to figure this out for now

just a thought, it seems when i find the timing and stick it on there and it seems to work on the test song, and then go try it on a faster song the timing is totally off again haha
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:50 PM   #6
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Are you sure you're saving the settings correctly when you adjust the timing?

I have a 46'' 1080p Samsung and I can play everything from GF/DM to DDR with 0 lag, using the time adjust settings.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:15 PM   #7
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well i am getting it better and better, but never quite spot on
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Old 02-19-2008, 11:15 PM   #8
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The phenomenon that you are experiencing is commonly referred to as scaling lag. While CRT direct view TVs are capable of displaying video streams according to the material source resolutions, current HDTVs in production are bound by their native resolution and therefore have to artificially scale and convert the video output (e.g. 640x480i -> 1280×720p or 1920×1080p). Although higher-end plasma panels can usually process video faster than their LCD or DLP counterparts, none of them matches the resulting speed of CRT monitors.

As such, even though you may be able to reduce the scaling lag effect to a certain degree by playing around with settings and by using products like this, Trip Machina is correct in identifying CRT as the best friend for rhythm game lovers (at least for now).
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:38 PM   #9
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I wonder if your ps2's RGB Adapters has a S-Video input?? Try switching it to that. However, if your ps2 does NOT have a converter, try getting a female-s-video adapter (usually some video cards would have this).

Or, switch it to a different signal by connecting the video wire to another port, maybe that will work. But yeah man that sucks that your tv is doing that.

Mine is a westinghouse 27" LCD HDTV, I have had no problems so far.

Good luck.

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Old 03-01-2008, 05:47 PM   #10
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Component is the best
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:04 PM   #11
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True, but if one does nto work, then why not the other?? .
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:02 PM   #12
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Mine is a westinghouse 27" LCD HDTV, I have had no problems so far.
See yaz bye.
the westinghouse lcd don't upscale. nether does my 24" benq. you might be able to find a 52" rca crt for $600 but remember that its going to be huge. 3 feet deep 170pounds
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:54 AM   #13
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does this mean that a lcd tv that can display 640*480 won't lag?
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:14 AM   #14
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I have my PS2/PS3 hooked up Component to a Sharp Aquos 32" tv
Drummania works no problem
I also have the screen set to native 1:1 ( no stretching for full screen) so i do play with the borders up
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:30 AM   #15
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did you have to adjust the timing settings of the game?
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