Bemanistyle #1 In music game coverage - Dance Dance Revolution, Beatmania, IIDX, Popn Music Sponsored Banner Ad. Contact Keith or Djp to AdvertiseSponsored Advertisement

Go Back   Bemanistyle [dot] com Forums > Music Game Discussion > GuitarFreaks & DrumMania / Keyboardmania
Reply
 
Thread Tools

Yet ANOTHER KBM question... sorry
Old 04-29-2007, 02:54 AM   #1
Dreamcube017
//bemanistyle::[Regular]
 
Dreamcube017 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 1,164
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Dreamcube017
Default Yet ANOTHER KBM question... sorry

Well as I said before, I already have a MIDI controller. I don't need a MIDI to USB as this keyboard connects directly through a USB jack. It's an M-Audio Oxygen v8.
Do you think this'll be compatible or do I have to use the exact keyboard with the game? I don't think I should have to much of a problem. Thanks.

-DC17-
__________________
Music I've made

Stories I've written

What if fish could play the guitar?


The way IIDX should be.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-29-2007, 03:12 AM   #2
rmz
wanna tell that
 
rmz's Avatar
 
rmz is offline
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,198
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to rmz
rmz
Default

You mean Keyboardmania PC, or a simulator?

Keyboardmania PC is very particular about the model of keyboard you use (even my Yamaha keyboard that is very similar to the EZ-whatever doesn't work out of the box) but there's a crack floating around that'll make the game more lenient when it comes to recognizing different models of keyboards.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomokosasaki
GOLD will come with 2nd conclusion!! Just have some trust. I can't always tell my source! But, in the end, you'll see i was right and this conversation won't matter anymore.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-29-2007, 03:21 AM   #3
Dreamcube017
//bemanistyle::[Regular]
 
Dreamcube017 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 1,164
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Dreamcube017
Default

Oh shoot. Wait.

I was talking bout the one for the PS2. Someone told me that you could use a USB one for the PS2 version and that it just used a MIDI controller made by konami... that's not true then.... That sucks.
__________________
Music I've made

Stories I've written

What if fish could play the guitar?


The way IIDX should be.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-29-2007, 06:01 AM   #4
rmz
wanna tell that
 
rmz's Avatar
 
rmz is offline
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,198
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to rmz
rmz
Default

KBM2 supports MIDI keyboards but I have no idea which models work :<

The standard KBM controllers use USB but they're not actual MIDI keyboards.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomokosasaki
GOLD will come with 2nd conclusion!! Just have some trust. I can't always tell my source! But, in the end, you'll see i was right and this conversation won't matter anymore.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-29-2007, 08:44 AM   #5
Dreamcube017
//bemanistyle::[Regular]
 
Dreamcube017 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 1,164
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Dreamcube017
Default

Ok. Thanks. I'll try to check around and see if I can find which ones are compatible with the controller... Hmm...
Thanks.
I'll go ahead and buy it and find out. ... I hope this works.
__________________
Music I've made

Stories I've written

What if fish could play the guitar?


The way IIDX should be.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-30-2007, 03:08 PM   #6
Alexx5
//bemanistyle::[Member]
 
Alexx5 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 52
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Alexx5
Default

If your keyboard is USB (not midi-out) it probably wont work. The reason I think so is because I have the EZ-250 keyboard (yes, the KBM PC keyboard) which is USB and not even THAT works with KBM II on PS2. Pretty amazing if you ask me. The KBM keyboard doesnt work with KBM o_o.

Anyway, I'm just guessing her but I think that KBM II only has drivers for the UX-16 midi-usb cable (+ a few other similar cables) and thats it. So if your keyboard doesnt support midi-out you're out of luck.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-30-2007, 03:37 PM   #7
Dreamcube017
//bemanistyle::[Regular]
 
Dreamcube017 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 1,164
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Dreamcube017
Default

Aw shoot. Now I'll have to ... Well it has a MIDI thru port which is both in and out... I wonder can I find a connection like that. I have A MIDI to USB cable.... Man, This sucks. I don't see why it can't take it like DaDaDa can take any USB keyboard. Not even my computer needs a driver to run the keyboard.

Oh yeah. Piano Hero is better than DoReMiMania. for a couplle of reasons.

Well, I'll guess I'll find out soon because I already ordered KBM II. I will get the cable that runs it. I'll have to pull out my other keyboard though it seems. Darn. I really REALLY hope this works.
__________________
Music I've made

Stories I've written

What if fish could play the guitar?


The way IIDX should be.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-12-2007, 07:01 PM   #8
Dreamcube017
//bemanistyle::[Regular]
 
Dreamcube017 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 1,164
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Dreamcube017
Default

Well I just got KBM II and you guys were right. My keyboard doesn't work with it.

Hey, is it possible to make IRX files out of other drivers and rebuild the game with more drivers on it so that my keyboard will work?
I'm planning on buying the UX16 soon.

Can the KBM for PC use any MIDI controller or only the EZ one? If it can use anyone, do you know where I can find it? Thanks.
__________________
Music I've made

Stories I've written

What if fish could play the guitar?


The way IIDX should be.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-13-2007, 06:22 AM   #9
Alexx5
//bemanistyle::[Member]
 
Alexx5 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 52
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Alexx5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamcube017 View Post
Hey, is it possible to make IRX files out of other drivers and rebuild the game with more drivers on it so that my keyboard will work?
I would love for something like this to happen but I doubt it ever will.

KBM PC only works with EZ-250 and DGX-505 (for whatever reason) as far as I know. But then there's a hack that makes it work with any midi keyboard. The problem is obtaining the game itself. It can only be bought bundled with EZ-250. At least that's the only legal way. But I'm sure that by now there are ways to download it.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-14-2007, 01:05 AM   #10
Dreamcube017
//bemanistyle::[Regular]
 
Dreamcube017 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 1,164
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Dreamcube017
Default

Ok. Thanks.
__________________
Music I've made

Stories I've written

What if fish could play the guitar?


The way IIDX should be.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-14-2007, 06:13 AM   #11
davidbrit2
//bemanistyle::[User]
 
davidbrit2's Avatar
 
davidbrit2 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 19
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to davidbrit2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamcube017 View Post
I don't see why it can't take it like DaDaDa can take any USB keyboard.
It does, actually. I know for a fact that at least the 1st KBM release will work with any USB computer keyboard, because that's how I played it before I got the real controller. I wouldn't be surprised if KBM II does as well. Be warned that US keyboard don't have anything that corresponds to the furthest right black key, though. If you're playing Light mode in KBM II, which only uses the left half, this won't matter. Get a cheap keyboard, rip off the unused key caps, and you won't be too bad off.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-14-2007, 12:49 PM   #12
Dreamcube017
//bemanistyle::[Regular]
 
Dreamcube017 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 1,164
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Dreamcube017
Default

What do you mean correspond to the furthest right black key? My keyboard has two octives and another one has like... eight or six. Also, I have KBM II now and I tried using an M-Audio MIDI man Ux1 MIDI to USB cable and it didn't work at all. Can you switch keyboards mid game or do you have to reset everytime you do something like that?

I have a USB keyboard, but that doesn't work either. If nothing works, I'll just get that UX16 cable. I know that will work.

I also heard that KBM 1 ONLY works with the controller.
__________________
Music I've made

Stories I've written

What if fish could play the guitar?


The way IIDX should be.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-14-2007, 04:06 PM   #13
davidbrit2
//bemanistyle::[User]
 
davidbrit2's Avatar
 
davidbrit2 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 19
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to davidbrit2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamcube017 View Post
What do you mean correspond to the furthest right black key?
As in no physical key on the keyboard corresponds to that key in the game. I think Japanese keyboards have an extra key to the left of Backspace which isn't present on US keyboards.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-17-2007, 10:45 PM   #14
noisy doll☆
no girls on internet, etc
 
noisy doll☆'s Avatar
 
noisy doll☆ is offline
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,970
Marketplace Rating: 1
Send a message via PM  to noisy doll☆
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by davidbrit2 View Post
As in no physical key on the keyboard corresponds to that key in the game. I think Japanese keyboards have an extra key to the left of Backspace which isn't present on US keyboards.
I think the two of you are talking about two different keyboards. He means a musical keyboard, and I think you mean an alphabetic keyboard.

Anyway, I think the problem, dreamcube, is that the keyboard controller that comes with Keyboardmania is not a MIDI controller at all, but a specialized game controller.
__________________
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-18-2007, 12:14 AM   #15
Dreamcube017
//bemanistyle::[Regular]
 
Dreamcube017 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Ohio
Posts: 1,164
Marketplace Rating: 0
Send a message via PM  to Dreamcube017
Default

I think we are talking about two different KBs because the only other black key there is is the turn wheel which can be turned off in Options incase you don't have that. But I'll grab a UX16 when I get the chance. I'm pretty busy so I might not get it too soon. It's cool though. (My friend's borrowing my Swap Magic. Why did I ever let him do that? Oh well. He knows what happens when he breaks it.)
__________________
Music I've made

Stories I've written

What if fish could play the guitar?


The way IIDX should be.
  Reply With Quote
Reply



Go Back   Bemanistyle [dot] com Forums > Music Game Discussion > GuitarFreaks & DrumMania / Keyboardmania
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Sponsored Advertisement



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:21 PM.

vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
| Home | Register | FAQ | Members List | Calendar | Today's Posts | Search | New Posts |