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Old 02-03-2008, 02:17 PM   #1
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Default I've started to play Beatmania

So I was at the local Gamesyop today, and they had Beatmania (new with controller for 5$) So I picked it up, people kept telling me that the learning curve was like walking into a brick wall. But after only one hour of play, I'm already doing 5' in IIDX mode. And 6's in 5 key mode. So I want to know, have people just been lieing to me or am I good?
 

Old 02-03-2008, 02:52 PM   #2
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Have you had any prior experience with other rhythm games not involving your feet?

I started with 5key back in like 99 then took a huge hiatus until Freshman year in '02 with VOS and never touched IIDX until August of '06 with BMUS, and I was doing the exact thing that is happening to you.

everybody progresses differently. I know I've been playing far less than some people I know, yet have vastly surpassed their playing ability.

Also good shit on the lucky find of the BMUS bundle for 5 smackers.
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Yeah jesus $5? Insanely lucky.
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And here I thought I was lucky as fuck for finding a stand alone BMUS controller for 8.99 because it was only recognized as a 3rd party ps2 controller at Gamestop.
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Have you had any prior experience with other rhythm games not involving your feet?

I started with 5key back in like 99 then took a huge hiatus until Freshman year in '02 with VOS and never touched IIDX until August of '06 with BMUS, and I was doing the exact thing that is happening to you.

everybody progresses differently. I know I've been playing far less than some people I know, yet have vastly surpassed their playing ability.

Also good shit on the lucky find of the BMUS bundle for 5 smackers.
Umm.. Stepmania once in a blue moon.
 

Do I have to do this again? Oh, what the hell...
Old 02-03-2008, 03:49 PM   #6
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Extraordinarily helpful advice I received when first deciding whether to get into IIDX:

"Okay, when you start out, you're going to struggle, and miss notes, and miss entire stanzas, and get clobbered and reamed and raped and slaughtered and squashed and smashed and smooshed and gooshed and pulverized and pureed and liquefied, and you're going to fail and fail and fail. In fact, when you're starting out, you're going to fail about 200 songs for every clear. But if you can get past that, you're going to love this game."

"It's not like DDR! Repeat, it's not like DDR. Let me be clear. It's not. Like. DDR. So you can't approach it like DDR. In fact, get out of that DDR mentality completely. Hey, you're a DDR guy, right? You sure sound like a DDR guy. Well, you'd better forget all that. Because it's not like DDR. At all."

"High speed. High speed. Highspeedhighspeedhighspeedhighspeedhighspeed. (Oh yeah, also pinky scratch.)"

"You gotta LEARN! You gotta DEAL WITH failure!! You gotta get used to the learning curve! No Autoscratch! No 5-Key! Never never never ever! Learn! Be a man! Take the pain! Start hard, move on to really hard! Don't mind failure! No Autoscratch! No 5-Key! Balls! Guts! Learning process!!! Keep at it!!! RRRRAAAAAGH!!!!!"

"Okay, it's like, you're playing something that you thought was completely impossible...and the notes are coming down...and then, it's like...it's like, it just clicks, and your fingers are...they're...well, it just happens, and...you have it. And you don't know...well, you have some idea...well...it'll just happen, when...well, when you...that is...ah...well...it just happens."

(Yeah. Don't ask. Just don't.)

All right, here's the scoop. IIDX does get insanely, ridiculously difficult. It doesn't happen right away. In the older styles, in fact, you have to go a fair distance into the Anothers before you encounter anything really murderous. (I've cleared all but one 7 Key chart in 3rd Style and every 7 Key in 4th.) The later styles are a different story, and DistorteD ratchets it up to a whole new level...damn, there's some ridiculous crap in there. But insane difficulty isn't the begin- and end-all...far from it, Light 7 is pretty much as reasonable as it always have been. (You get the odd finger-breaker like Spica or In The Sky, but those are few and far between.) In fact, nowadays, chart-for-chart, PoMu is far worse.

As for the lousy advice, the problem is that a lot of videogamers, even very knowledgable ones, just are incredibly lousy at exposition. A belief strongly reinforced by my experiences with GameFAQs.

The point is, you're having fun and you're discovering what you're capable of. That's firmly in the "all good" category in my book.

And as always, just so you know where I'm coming from: VJ Army >> User Data View >> DKW / dj DKW
 

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5 Key mode sucks
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Pinky scratch?
 

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Sounds just like it is. Using your pinky for scratches.

Basically, this allows you to keep your other fingers on the keys. For many players, scratching and certain note patterns are difficult, especially when played on the arcade machine or an arcade style controller. Luckily, the spacing is much closer on the controller you have so you should have little or no problem using your pinky for scratches.
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Sounds just like it is. Using your pinky for scratches.

Basically, this allows you to keep your other fingers on the keys. For many players, scratching and certain note patterns are difficult, especially when played on the arcade machine or an arcade style controller. Luckily, the spacing is much closer on the controller you have so you should have little or no problem using your pinky for scratches.
Oh, if you're playing with two hands. I only use one. Oh and I just passed V on hyper, but just barely. I mean barely! I only got to 80% for like 2 seconds at the end of the song. :-)
 

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You play with one hand, only had the game for a few hours and already passed V on hyper with ONE HAND?

If so.. then fucking awesome man, my hat's off to you.
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vids or it didn't happen
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:45 PM   #13
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You play with one hand, only had the game for a few hours and already passed V on hyper with ONE HAND?

If so.. then fucking awesome man, my hat's off to you.
Well, the the parts with the 1&7->3&5 trills, and the other annoying one (I THINK its 4&7 and 5&6) I did use two hands for those, but everything else I did legitamately with on hand. Meh, need to improve my PA, only 300 Perfects, something like 800 goods, 8 greats, and the rest were bads and poors.

EDIT::: Argh, my friend is forcing me to fess up. I did it on 4/5 speed in training mode. :P

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vids or it didn't happen
Exactly what I'm thinking.
 

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QFT!!
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