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03-30-2005, 03:36 AM
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rmz is offline
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | IIDX Controller Mod Originally posted by ryan2dx with pictures by Fecal-Lord.
"Each little square is a 1cm x 1cm square cut out of a hard rubber material (I used Dr. Scholls womens heel inserts, but I've heard of people that have used a type of material like that of a magnet off a fridge, or a thin mouspad) about 1mm thick, glued onto the circut board. These will help the the corners not being able to sink down far enough into the casing that it will stick.
Then I shaved the corners of every key quite a bit using a metal file.
And also the front and back edges of the keys.
This step is really important. Cut small circles (I traced a dime, and cut smaller than that. Other people have used inside of a CD) out of a thin carboard material (A little thicker than a cereal box, a shoe box should be the perfect thickness), and glue it onto the bottom of the controller so that the plunger covers the material. This makes it so that you dont have to push hard at all for the thing to respond.
And to answer some other questions I've been asked about..
-I kept the little black rubber slivers in my keys, I see no need to remove them and it makes the controller sound better (to me)
-Some people are scared to shave their keys, but I feel that it really does help it from sticking, since the edges catching the inside of the casing are a main problem for it.
-I used super glue to glue everything on that needed to be glued on." STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS WITH PICTURES 
You can eject the tray of keys by holding this EJECT button on the bottom of the controller.
The tray then slides outwards a little.
And you lift it right out from there.
Take off the 6 black screws on the bottom of the tray and you can store them in the little grooves for now like I've done.
Take the bottom of the tray off [on the left in the pic] and now you can use the little circular areas to store the screws if you wish.
Take out the two gold screws and place them with the other screws on the bottom half of the tray.
Here's is the board sitting on the bottom half of the tray [with the screws in it] on the left and the top of the tray with all the keys and their plungers on the right.
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03-30-2005, 03:37 AM
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Take all the plungers off [including the 2 for start and select] and put them somewhere, I put them with the rest of the controller.
Now you can lift [or dump] all the keys out of the tray here, and leave the start and select buttons with the plungers unless they need some serious cleaning.
You may not be able to see it here, but the buttons aren't the only things that needed cleaning in my case. The edges of the tray where each button sat had a lot of gross stuff on it.
And here's some dirty keys for comparison, not sure how well you can see the dirt.
Although you can use Q-tips for cleaning, I just used a few wet folded paper towels. They don't need to be dripping wet, I just ran a low stream out the tap and quickly rushed the towels under it to get them slightly damp. The edges of the keys are most important but there are also small grooves in these edges that can sometimes get dirty too. Just keep your eyes open for dirt and you should be fine. You can go over the keys once more with a dry paper towel if you want, it depends how wet they are and how long you want to wait for them to dry.
The cleaned keys drying.
Very important to clean the edges of the tray where the keys would sit, I also used damp paper towels for this.
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03-30-2005, 03:37 AM
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Moving away from cleaning and getting into the actual cardboard mod. You'll notice that the inside of a CD is in fact very close to the size of cardboard that you need to cut.
Trace the inside of the CD seven times on your cardboard of choice. I used one layer of cereal box, but I may later add a second layer.
Cut out each circle but cut just inside the line instead of along it, since the
inside of the CD is slightly bigger than the middle of the keys.
Place each cardboard circle on the middle of the keys and let the rubber plunger rest over it. It will rest a little higher than usual but as long as it's completely over the cardboard it's no problem.
The crazy glue that I was going to use was all dried out so my circles are loose under the plungers. However I don't think this matters since they're pressed between the plungers and the plastic once everything is closed up again, there's really nowhere for them to go! Plus having them loose means that you can easily swap them out for newer cardboard later on.
Now you can just put everything back together in reverse order.
- put the keys back in the tray
- put the board over the keys (it fits on the plastic posts nicely)
- screw the board down with the 2 gold screws
- screw the back down with the 6 black screws
- snap the tray back into the controller and get your game on!
I will likely try the wax paper turntable mod either later tonight or tomorrow, but this site seems perfect for pictures of that mod: http://users.adelphia.net/~kiltz/
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03-30-2005, 05:14 PM
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | Just to make sure it's known in this thread, the wax paper turntable mod works wonders for your turntable, and I highly reccomend you do it as soon as you get your controller. Its 100 times easier to spin, and seems way more responsive overall. Be sure to use Wax Paper, and not the Bags like the site says. It even has a little disclaimer part way down the page saying that.
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04-03-2005, 12:07 AM
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#5 | | //bemanistyle::[User]
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | There is a better way to do this than that.
Just shave the black plastic part and the corners of your keys and they won't stick. IT's rather simple and you can have no mods done to your mobo ro whatever.
It's rather nice. d
BUT WHO NEEDS MODS WHEN YOU HAVE A DOPE CONTROLLERLIKE ME?!?! HAHAH. d  DD <3
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07-22-2005, 01:55 PM
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | I used both the slipmat and the cardboard mods for my KOC, and it's great. I actually used washers+cardboard for the keys, and wax paper for the turntable. | |
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06-17-2006, 11:52 PM
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | 3 cardboard circles in each key works wonders for me. No sticky keys whatsoever although im somehow suffering from an uneven key (the 3rd key).  Im going to have to fix that. | |
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06-18-2006, 12:04 AM
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | I have a BMUS controller...*RUNS*
But actually, I'm THINKING of doing the Turntable Mod, some people say the TT is stiff, but IMO, I can trigger it just fine. But if it helps go toward my goal of AAA'ing CYO L7, I'm up for it.
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06-18-2006, 12:19 AM
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | I use my USKOC with a modded turntable. It works amazingly well, I haven't touched my JKOC since I got it.
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06-18-2006, 12:21 AM
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Marketplace Rating: 1 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by CSB I have a BMUS controller...*RUNS*
But actually, I'm THINKING of doing the Turntable Mod, some people say the TT is stiff, but IMO, I can trigger it just fine. But if it helps go toward my goal of AAA'ing CYO L7, I'm up for it. | I thought that the turntable was just fine with my JP KOC before I modded it. It wasn't until after I did the slipmat mod did I realize just how tight it originally was. It may seem fine to you now, you should notice a huge difference afterwards (and it should really help you out). | |
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06-18-2006, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CSB I have a BMUS controller...*RUNS*
But actually, I'm THINKING of doing the Turntable Mod, some people say the TT is stiff, but IMO, I can trigger it just fine. But if it helps go toward my goal of AAA'ing CYO L7, I'm up for it. | You'll notice a difference when you do the turntable mod. I thought it was stiff the first time i was playing around with it. Up to you i guess. When I play with the USKOC i think the keys aren't responding that fast when i press on them. *thinks of ideas of how to mod USKOC keys*. | |
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06-18-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CSB I have a BMUS controller...*RUNS*
But actually, I'm THINKING of doing the Turntable Mod, some people say the TT is stiff, but IMO, I can trigger it just fine. But if it helps go toward my goal of AAA'ing CYO L7, I'm up for it. | IIRC, you can and should still do the cardboard mod on the USKOC, although you'll have to glue it to the key itself (because the plungers don't have those little walls to keep the cardboard in place). If you can think of another way to keep them there, I'd like to hear it.
And I still would like to know where the Dr. Scholls things go and why. /r/ pics | |
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06-18-2006, 07:24 PM
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | I'm happy with my controller just the way it is.
However, it'd be nice to get the scratch similar to that of the arcade, since I switch back and forth quite often between the home controller and the arcade. It's usually quite awkward. | |
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06-18-2006, 07:29 PM
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#14 | | g//ay for k//eternal
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Marketplace Rating: 3 | Does the usual wax paper or Circuit City bag mod make it similar to the arcade, or just a better turn? | |
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06-18-2006, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by k//eternal Does the usual wax paper or Circuit City bag mod make it similar to the arcade, or just a better turn? | when i play with my modded turntable, it feels more like the arcade. easier turning and srcolling down the songlist much faster. | |
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