SM and DWI BG vids thread - Page 15

flamepanther · 08-25-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by beware

no, those are not acceptable. ive seen them, and the videos are completely ruined. you probably refer to a "extreme III, cd 3", which contains a few vids. who converted them from ntsc must be shot. i thought you had legal/real jumpbacks as a source, not p2p like i do.

A guy called Naota seems to have better versions. I'll ask him if he'd be interested in helping out.

beware · 08-25-2006, 05:37 PM

naota has released jumpbacks of good quality, however, not the high numbers which itg2 uses. the question is if he has them.

flamepanther · 08-25-2006, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beware

naota has released jumpbacks of good quality, however, not the high numbers which itg2 uses. the question is if he has them.

One of his releases did have several clips used in ITG2, but he made letterboxed versions of them by mistake. Dunno if he has all of them though. Still, it would be a start.

beware · 08-26-2006, 06:23 AM

letterboxed jumpbacks? how does that work?
1: SM bg video style borders. which makes no sense since the source vids are 4:3
2: treating the source vids (720x480) as having square pixels.
both ideas are insane.

flamepanther · 08-27-2006, 12:06 AM

The AVI files actually have black bars encoded into the top and bottom of the image. I don't know why. Check out the older of his two packs if you want to see for yourself. He offered to fix it if people wanted it, but it seems not enough people were interested.

BTW, he says the videos he's released are all he has. That's *most* of the videos from 001 to 665. The higher numbers of those do dip into what's used in ITG2. Unfortunately, the first pack he put out was the one with the higher numbered videos, and that's the one that got letterboxed. Do you suppose it's worth asking him to encode those ones over again for this?

beware · 08-27-2006, 07:39 AM

update.

9 = field mixing conversion (naota's encodes. naota told me he can give me proper ones)
0 = misses completely
6, 5 = ps2 rips, but the videos are too short because more can't be ripped. a proper version is welcome.
3 = same as above and also misses the first ~10 frames

9 428_jumpback have (complete)
9 429_jumpback have (complete)
9 433_jumpback have (complete)
9 445_jumpback have (complete)
9 452_jumpback have (complete)
9 457_jumpback have (complete)
9 464_jumpback have (complete)
0 594_jumpback not in ps2
3 760_jumpback have (ps2 rip) not used in scripts but shows in monolith as random entry
3 765_jumpback have (ps2 rip)
6 785_jumpback have (ps2 rip)
5 800_jumpback have (ps2 rip)

Terrabull · 08-27-2006, 01:36 PM

Considering that Roxor itself is commiting copyright infringement (by selling Stepmania, it's free status allowed it to fly under the radar), I highly doubt they would have the balls to even issue a C&D notice to us. It would give Konami even more legal background to use in their ongoing suit against them.
As for Digital Juice, since we would be offering the videos free of charge and on a small scale the worst the company would do is issue us a cease and decist (sp?) order. Since we are not activly trying to ruin their buisness or their profitability we are not a reasonable target for a lawsuit.

TheFlyingSquirrel · 08-27-2006, 03:21 PM

I agree.

BTW Amy has been wondering about hosting space Terrabull ???

flamepanther · 08-27-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrabull

Considering that Roxor itself is commiting copyright infringement (by selling Stepmania, it's free status allowed it to fly under the radar), I highly doubt they would have the balls to even issue a C&D notice to us. It would give Konami even more legal background to use in their ongoing suit against them.
As for Digital Juice, since we would be offering the videos free of charge and on a small scale the worst the company would do is issue us a cease and decist (sp?) order. Since we are not activly trying to ruin their buisness or their profitability we are not a reasonable target for a lawsuit.

Dude. No. The ITG development team at Roxor effectively IS the StepMania development team. It's the same people. Furthermore, StepMania is open-source and the license is such that you're allowed to make a commercial product out of it without royalties. That means even if Roxor wasn't mostly the same people as the StepMania team (which they are), they'd still be allowed to use it.

Unless you mean they're comitting copyright infringement against Konami, in which case it would offer nothing new against Roxor that Konami isn't already suing them for.

flamepanther · 08-27-2006, 05:35 PM

beware: Nice. I already made my own list too

Naota has JumpBacks 428, 429, 431, 433, 439, 445, 446, 449, 451, 452, 453, 455, 457, 461, 462, 464, 465, 627, 628, 629, 632, 640, 641, 643, 651, and 657, but they're all letterboxed.

I've got placeholders for 764 and 765, but it's that 25 fps stuff.

Any idea what's different about the versions with an underscore and an extra number after them? E.g. 628_jumpback, 628_jumpback_1, & 628_jumpback_2

beware · 08-27-2006, 06:07 PM

i can use videos, *without letterboxing*, in divx avi, roughly 1.5-2 Mbit (depending on video), for any ones i have in the list marked as:
- no marking
- "incomplete"
- "placeholder"
re-encoding (from the originals) should be done and is the only way to get those vids atm.
i can get a few more vids from ps2 (which i didnt do yet), but they will all have the "incomplete" status.

i think _1 _2 etc are edited videos. note tht roxor seems to have more edits, without special names, mostly giving the video one color.

Kmaster78 · 08-27-2006, 08:58 PM

Is it possible that someone has the vids for the songs in DDR Festival like Ki Se Ki and others in that mix.

mono-type · 08-28-2006, 01:39 AM

Excuse me, but what is that "jumpback" thing?

Terrabull · 08-28-2006, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by flamepanther

Unless you mean they're comitting copyright infringement against Konami, in which case it would offer nothing new against Roxor that Konami isn't already suing them for.

Yes, I was talking about Konami. And I meant that Konami could use their legal action against them in court as evidence. Not that they could sue them again or for something new.

I sent Amy a message. I hope to have an FTP site up soon.

Amy · 08-28-2006, 10:10 AM

Message received.
Since the simfiles for Strike is basically completed, I will work on the scripts for them as soon as possible.
Right now, only 2 things are hindering me from working on the scripts:
1) Lack of JP or modded PS2 (leaning towards getting the JP so I don't have to fight over the one PS2 with my brother)
2) My job