Absolute Worst Charts In Pop'n Music

[Hudson]

Originally Posted by Dewgy

I'm not even sure what Konami intended those notes to go to.

The music. Take it into training, it makes perfect sense.

[Hortence:The Muleface Mod]

Originally Posted by Kaze

The music. Take it into training, it makes perfect sense.

I meant more of the pattern of the notes in relation to the music, it seems a little more chaotic than the song would suggest, although I'll be sure to check that out.

[DragonMasterHawk]

Oh, right.

Prelude Hyper.

*sad*

(I'm sure I'd like the note chart a lot more if I could play the crazy parts at least SOMEWHAT non-retardedly.

Also 24 second pause.)

[Ichibo]

Originally Posted by Kaze

Every chart on pop'n music is good. There is not a single bad chart.

Mikeneko Rock. Strike 1.

Implantation. Strike 2.

Mikeneko Rock. Strike 3.


Mikeneko Rock. Strike 4.


Mikeneko Rock. Strike 5.


Mikeneko Rock. Strike 6.

You get the idea.

[Hudson]

I don't think I'd dislike Brass Rock as much if I wasn't expecting the chart to be different than it is. I dunno, though, I kind of like it with it's assy timing, as it would give me more incentive to play it, as a new score is always manageable. Dunno, maybe I just like shitty charts, and am blind to it? lol

As for Gamelan, there's 2 individual rhythms going on; an 8th note beat moving up and down, while the 16ths go in a repetitive pattern of 3 non-adjacent notes for each measure. It's very uncomfortable, but it makes sense. I have no trouble with it on mirror, unfortunately, as the rest of the song is a lot harder on mirror. Figures? The song honestly plays like a 36, and the middle could constitute for a 41, averaging to a rough 38.5 (lol?).

[Ledline]

I see Gamelan more as a 37.5, because as I said before that middle part is exciting.

[Ichibo]

They should just switch the rating system to GF/DM and make them all out of 100. That way nobody would be happy.

[Arctures]

Originally Posted by Ichibo

They should just switch the rating system to GF/DM and make them all out of 100. That way nobody would be happy.

yes


Gamelan works pretty well as a 38 for me, since it's fairly easy to recover after the middle stuff.

[Brett]

Gamelan and Fortune Tale Beat; you can flatline in their bullshit parts, but still eaisly pass.

[Hudson]

Originally Posted by Ichibo

They should just switch the rating system to GF/DM and make them all out of 100. That way nobody would be happy.

Actually, I was debating this the other day with my friend, and I actually said a 1 - 100 rating for pop'n would be incredible. It would break the barriers of having 'harder' 41's such as Lamento, and 'easier' 42's like Nightmare Carousel, or even differentiating the gaps between a 43 like Classic 9, or a 43 like Cowboy and Classic 8.

But again, I'm probably alone on this, seeing as there's already people bitching about GF&dm's rating system -- no need to add MORE bitching to the pop'n community, right?

[Arbel]

I just think an extension to 45 would be perfect. There is way too much of a gap between 41/42. Everything seems well spread out until this horrendous jump and then the game just gets stupid frustrating.

[Ichibo]

Originally Posted by Arbel

I just think an extension to 45 would be perfect. There is way too much of a gap between 41/42. Everything seems well spread out until this horrendous jump and then the game just gets stupid frustrating.

It might just be because I only play things above 40, and panic pop, but there is really only a scrunch up at the 41/42/43 area. Each of these areas has huuuge ranges in difficulty. Screen, Cowboy and Classic 8 are tough, but not equal. I still think all 43s are gimmick songs though, so it's kind of hard to compare "chordscales" to "clusterfuck" to "jackhammer". Even just adding 44 and doing a fair bit of swapping among the highest 4 rankings would work fine.

[Hudson]

Cowboy and Classic 8 would be upped to 44's, while the rest would be left for 43's. And while I wholeheartedly agree that Classic 8 is a gimmick chart, I wouldn't say the same for Cowboy.

And personally, I wish they WOULD expand the difficulty to 44. Not so that Cowboy and Classic 8 could get bumped, but so that a Cowboy 2 or Cowboy long could come around and set a new standard in difficulty. If IIDX can have shit like quasar 14[A] that only 3 players in Japan can clear, I don't see why pop'n can't.

Lv.44 songs for the win.

I dunno, I liked charts back in the pop'n 7/8 era with Classic 7/Classic 8/Screen style charts where the difficulty consisted of random unparalleled double scales with random jackhammers and triples thrown in at a high BPM to add for difficulty. If Classic 8's 2nd half of the song was as menacing as the first, we'd have the hardest song in pop'n history, jackhammers completely aside.

No one will agree with me, of course. Hopefully Konami will one day, though.

[Arctures]

I frankly don't see how Classic 9 could be considered a 43. The only kinda difficult part are the beginning scales, but those are still more of a kinda high 42. The only real trouble with the song is reading it, since HS2 sucks for the end and HS3 sucks for the beginning, and even if you can't make the beginning you can still make it just fine to the end. I estimate that HS2.5 will make the song a lot more passable to a lot more people.

[Hudson]

HS3 on pop'n 9 is absolutely perfect, and is probably more or less the equivalent of HS2.5 on Adventure. I think the 43 factor of Classic 9 is the ending, which determines the clear or not. I've countless times got to the ending with an oscar winning score on it only to fuck up the ending horribly because of the shitty low bpm and horrible double rhythms going on. I agree that it should be a 42, but if it were, so should moushima and screen.