Is the DAO worth the extra 100 over the V4 ASC?

jubrany · 10-11-2007, 07:50 PM

The Dao is 305 after shipping and the DASC is about 230...

I don't really care about losing the LEDs on the keys, but the PC support does interest me.

So does the DAC work good enough with adaptors that I shouldn't worry about it?

thanks....

Alex · 10-11-2007, 11:53 PM

The major difference is the Dao is significantly more arcade accurate. Dao uses real Sanwa buttons and the controller is pretty much a straight duplicate of the arcade control panel. PS > PC adapters are extremely tricky to get to work right as well, so I'd say if that matters to you you're much better off with a Dao.

jubrany · 10-12-2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PSP SIGNED BY MIKE DITKA

The major difference is the Dao is significantly more arcade accurate. Dao uses real Sanwa buttons and the controller is pretty much a straight duplicate of the arcade control panel. PS > PC adapters are extremely tricky to get to work right as well, so I'd say if that matters to you you're much better off with a Dao.

Ahhh, not what I wanted to hear.

I don't know what to do now lol. Especially when I read the problems people get with the DAOs on these forums.

Thanks for your advice though.

*Arbel* · 10-12-2007, 08:38 AM

I've had a DAO and I must say they are fantastic. The extra 100 is definitely worth it considering you will get it in 2 weeks guaranteed. DAO's aren't nearly as noisy either, and if you do experience any problems, he is willing to help with anything

k⁄⁄eternal · 10-12-2007, 10:52 AM

So do the people replying own both controllers? I'm actually wondering the same thing to some degree.

Alex · 10-12-2007, 11:38 AM

I know Arbel owns a Dao, has played on a Ransai and DA, and uh

Owns a Pop'n Fever cabinet.

I'd say his opinion is pretty well thought out. :x

Enaress · 10-12-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jubrany

Ahhh, not what I wanted to hear.

I don't know what to do now lol. Especially when I read the problems people get with the DAOs on these forums.

Thanks for your advice though.

Well I'd say any controller is subject to have problems. I've seen people have problems with every type of controller, even a dual-shock.

I used to own a DASC but sold it because I had to fix the wires on the controller after every 3 or so songs (vibrations would knock them loose), so I had to keep the bottom of the controller open. The bottom didn't exactly square up to the screw holes so i had to guesstimate where they were. Only three of the 4 screws would actually stay in place, on of the holes was stripped and I had to hold a corner shut with duct tape.
I bought a DAO controller and I've never had to open it once yet. Plus it feels completely solid (not sure how to describe it but it just feels solid). DASC sounded a lot louder that the DAO controller, like its a bang compared to a slap. I got some videos of the DAO in use if you are interested in how it sounds (look below).

[NesS] · 10-12-2007, 05:59 PM

a fever cab? what? how much did that run you?

(off-topic sorry)

i've played on a dao and its mega big time quieter than my DA that i have yet to have fixed from Chow but whatever. I'd get a DAO over DA any day just so I don't have to keep having it fixed.

jubrany · 10-13-2007, 02:33 AM

Wow, you guys really convinced me that I should get the Dao.

I'm kinda sad though, since DA has great service, gives extra switches and is much closer to me geographically.

Too bad DA doesn't offer USB support and sanwa keys...

Alex · 10-13-2007, 03:45 AM

Actually you can order spare switches from Dao, the pricing is on the IIDX Real Edition order page, just make sure to get some spare Omrons when you order.

jubrany · 10-13-2007, 08:17 PM

One more question:

how does the PC connectivity work with the Dao?

Do you just plug in the USB into the PC and that's it, or do you still need a PSX adaptor???

Alex · 10-14-2007, 02:26 PM

I'm not 100% sure on that, I know you don't need a PS2 > USB adapter for it; but I'm not sure if you need special software or anything to get it to run.

Sukunai Kitsune · 10-14-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PSP SIGNED BY MIKE DITKA

The major difference is the Dao is significantly more arcade accurate. Dao uses real Sanwa buttons and the controller is pretty much a straight duplicate of the arcade control panel. PS > PC adapters are extremely tricky to get to work right as well, so I'd say if that matters to you you're much better off with a Dao.

Call me a foolish girl in this one but please explain to me how Dao is able to make any type of profit from their controllers when Sanwa is charging 3,800 yen (roughly converted to $32 USD) per button (See bottom item). Being so close to Ransai as you were in the past you should know as well as I that Sanwa doesn't cut enough of a deal to people who are not buying more then 10 to 20 thousand buttons at a time to make them worth using. Not even Beston gets a decent break on buttons and they would be ordering a few 100 thousand if they could afford it (in this case buttons for fighters).

I'm not going to sit here and tell everyone my obvious bias for Desktop Arcade controllers, but I will advice to read through the Dao board and try to get as many reviews as possible before putting money into their controller. One person alone cannot tell you how good a product is because they are only one opinion from one point of view that may not be the same as your's.

*Arbel* · 10-14-2007, 05:03 PM

Wait, so you are saying that since you believe there is no way DAO can make a profit that make it a less credible controller.. I'm a little lost... Obviously he is making profit in some way. Why don't you ask him =P

Have you played on a DAO, DA, and a Ransai? If so what would you say are the pro's and cons of all of them? I think that is more or less what the topic creator was looking for...we explained our honest opinions here. Doesn't mean we are right, but why are you getting so upset? I wouldn't care if someone posted that DAO's suck in here. It's just an opinon..

k⁄⁄eternal · 10-14-2007, 05:23 PM

The obvious implication is that they aren't actual Sanwas. I don't know if that's true or not, personally, but that's something to be upset about if it is.