Do you have Pop N' Music game CD's?

boostinallovryou · 06-05-2009, 01:56 PM

I am a software engineer looking to help finish the Pop N' Music MAME effort. Obviously one of the things needed are the game CD's. I posted in the for sale section because I am looking to buy them. But if you have them, don't want to sell but are willing to make a copy of them to help the MAME effort please contact me.

Timer Rabbit · 06-08-2009, 12:34 AM

Is htis kind of a bit off the "Pop'n Music Simulation" topic?

Simulation as I mean Feeling PoMu or Step'n Music. :O

Sorry I can't help much....

boostinallovryou · 06-08-2009, 11:44 AM

I don't think this is off the Pop N simulation topic at all. I would like to contribute to the simulation work that has already been done, to do so I need images of the original game cd's. Sounds perfectly on topic to me.

Timer Rabbit · 06-09-2009, 12:45 AM

Hmm.. Well... If you say so. But I don't have any material or information that I can help. D: (Let alone there aren't alot of active PnM-simulation players.)

***red shoe paul*** · 06-14-2009, 05:48 PM

Moved to the Pop'n Music topic.

zorahk · 06-14-2009, 06:47 PM

One problem with this is the game doesn't run off CDs.
It runs off hard drives, and honestly I don't think there are many people who care about running 1-14 MAME when a certain somewhere has 15-16 available straight for PC.

boostinallovryou · 06-15-2009, 12:07 PM

You are partially correct. Pop N 1 - 3 ran on DJ Main hardware. That has a 2.5" (laptop) hard drive. CHD's are easily created off those drives. Pop N 4 - 8 ran on Firebeat hardware. That system uses 1 CDROM and 1DVDROM. No hard disks. Again CHD's are easy to create off those. Pop N 9 - 13 ran on Viper hardware. Uses a Compact Flash card. DVDROM is still used to load up the CF card. Pop N 14 - current is on Bemani PS2 hardware. DVD used again.

The point was that you might not be interested in bringing this to MAME but other people are. I think you might be confusing Pop N and IIDX when it comes to hard drive images running under windows. IIDX uses embedded windows, not Pop N. Like I mentioned above 14 - current uses a PS2 with an external hardware interface.

I just wanted to ask the community if anybody out there had disks so we can document and preserve a great game line. That's what this forum is for right?

eddie · 06-15-2009, 06:46 PM

I have access to the game discs for 6, Animelo 2 and 8 immediately but they are not for sale as they belong to my roomate's machine (which is currently only running firebeat hardware). I also have access to several of the 9-14 HDDs. I'm not sure how soon I can provide copies to your team, but if you contact me we can figure it out.

boostinallovryou · 06-15-2009, 07:02 PM

PM sent

zorahk · 06-16-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostinallovryou

You are partially correct. Pop N 1 - 3 ran on DJ Main hardware. That has a 2.5" (laptop) hard drive. CHD's are easily created off those drives. Pop N 4 - 8 ran on Firebeat hardware. That system uses 1 CDROM and 1DVDROM. No hard disks. Again CHD's are easy to create off those. Pop N 9 - 13 ran on Viper hardware. Uses a Compact Flash card. DVDROM is still used to load up the CF card. Pop N 14 - current is on Bemani PS2 hardware. DVD used again.

The point was that you might not be interested in bringing this to MAME but other people are. I think you might be confusing Pop N and IIDX when it comes to hard drive images running under windows. IIDX uses embedded windows, not Pop N. Like I mentioned above 14 - current uses a PS2 with an external hardware interface.

I just wanted to ask the community if anybody out there had disks so we can document and preserve a great game line. That's what this forum is for right?

You are obviously misinformed. 9-14 uses bemani viper ps2 hardware, and as of pop'n 15, they switched to bemanipc which is embedded windows ala IIDX. With hard drives.

source: I bought a freaking cabinet.

boostinallovryou · 06-16-2009, 09:32 PM

So you are saying system16.com is incorrect?

Popn 9 - 13
System 16 - Bemani Viper Hardware (Konami)

Popn 14 - 16
System 16 - Bemani PlayStation 2 Hardware (Konami)

If they are wrong let me know and I'll drop an email to the webmaster

*Arbel* · 06-16-2009, 09:42 PM

Yeah 14 is definitely viper ps2 hardware. I've looked at my kit before. 15 and up is Bemani PC as stated.

boostinallovryou · 06-16-2009, 09:50 PM

Viper and PS2 are not the same system. There is viper, and there is PS2. And of course there is Bemani PC. Was PS2 ever used on PNM? I know viper was, and you said as of 15 BPC is. Anyways may not mean much to anybody, but if system16 is going to claim something as gospel, I want to make sure it's the truth.

Thanks for the info.

zorahk · 06-17-2009, 01:25 AM

System 16 is 110% incorrect if that is what they are stating.

Bemani Viper *is* modified ps2 hardware, and it runs from 9-13.

The correct information would be the following:

Pop'n 1-3: DJ MAIN
Pop'n 4-8: Firebeat (ONLY THIS HARDWARE USES DISCS, THE REST USE HDDs)
Pop'n 9-14: Viper (this is a ps2, basically)
Pop'n 15-17: BemaniPC (running embedded windows XP, all over the internet because of piracy)