[3.9] Fonts/Music wheel items

[Ætheros]

Two quick theming questions, one quite broad, one more specific.

Firstly, since the SM theming wiki went down, I can't find that tutorial on how to do fonts for 3.9. Can anybody post a quick tutorial or a link to the old or or something useful like that?

Also a little simpler, for a theme I'm working on I would like to get the sub title on the music wheel to show up on the same line as the title (while keeping small text) kinda like this:

[Title(Subtitle)]

does anyone know how to do this, or if it's possible or not?
thanks in advance and such.

[AJ 187]

ooh, that second one is going to be tricky. I know ITG/ITG2 did it; if you have the theme for one of those there should be some insight in the [TextBanner] section of the metrics.

As for making fonts, your choices are pretty much all Windows-only, Bitmap Font Builder and Texture Font Generator, which I don't seem to have uploaded.

(the wiki is back up btw, it just doesn't have all the information it used to.)

[k⁄⁄eternal]

that's technically easy except that you won't be able to guarantee the subtitle is after the title so they'll likely overlap in a lot of cases

if you're still interested i'll paste some stuff

[Ætheros]

Originally Posted by AJ 187

(the wiki is back up btw, it just doesn't have all the information it used to.)

yeah I know there's like eight articles and they're all stubs. >.<
Right when I decided to get serious about trying to theme :P

Also wasn't there more I had to do with photoshop and stuff? as far as the fonts go?

Originally Posted by k⁄⁄eternal

that's technically easy except that you won't be able to guarantee the subtitle is after the title so they'll likely overlap in a lot of cases

if you're still interested i'll paste some stuff

Is there a way i could set boundaries for the title, so if it did exceed a certain length the text would squish like it normally does when it hits the end of the wheel? I dunno, I suppose to pull off the exact effect I want I would have to rewrite some code or something, and I don't know the first thing about that. Hell I barely theme as it is.

Go ahead and post some stuff and I'll test it out and see if I really want that or if I'm better off leaving it as is.

thanks BTW (both of you)

(oh fun, it seems BMFB likes every font except the ONE I want to use. Shuts down every time I selcet it >.> I'll just hunt down the other one)

[AJ 187]

Originally Posted by Ætheros

Also wasn't there more I had to do with photoshop and stuff? as far as the fonts go?

Crap, you're right... It's been so long that I've used BFB for making fonts that I forgot the extra steps.

Yeah, you need Photoshop or something that can deal with channels.

1) Save as 32-bit TGA (RGBA).
2) Go to wherever you find the channels (In photoshop this is in a tab in the Layers window)
3) Load the selection of the alpha channel (control+click on thumbnail)
4) Invert selection
5) Delete (twice. Doing this makes layer styles work and not look like garbage.)

And then you have a font that's ready to be messed with.

Since Ridge gave me a backup of the wiki from a while back, I'll work on getting stuff like that up in the tutorials section.

[k⁄⁄eternal]

this is what i've got in XIV although it doesn't do what you have in mind as is

you can see by adjusting Y coords you can get them onto the same line, after that, just use maxwidth to force it to a certain maximum length

[TextBanner]
TitleX=-90
TitleY=-2
TitleOnCommand=shadowlength,0;horizalign,left
SubtitleX=-90
SubtitleY=0
SubtitleOnCommand=shadowlength,0;horizalign,left
ArtistX=-90
ArtistY=0
ArtistOnCommand=shadowlength,0;horizalign,left

TwoLinesTitleCommand=zoom,1;maxwidth,195;y,-9
TwoLinesSubtitleCommand=hidden,1
TwoLinesArtistCommand=zoom,0.6;maxwidth,296;y,8
ThreeLinesTitleCommand=zoom,.8;maxwidth,240;y,-10
ThreeLinesSubtitleCommand=hidden,0;zoom,.5;maxwidt h,360
ThreeLinesArtistCommand=zoom,0.5;maxwidth,296;y,9

[Hideki-Motosuwa]

Looking forward to the font section of the Wiki cause I'm personally stumped as of right now. lol

[k⁄⁄eternal]

fonts are exceedingly easy if you just have bitmap font builder and photoshop (should be possible in gimp also but i don't know how)

maybe i'll make a tutorial later