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03-17-2008, 10:22 PM
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#31 | | STANLEY FUBAR
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Originally Posted by Nope Nope Yep, and that was a really shitty thing to do. On the other hand, there are several differences here beside the one you pointed out.
1. I claimed that the changes were minimal (as they were) and that the theme was not my theme, but a mod of another. On the other hand, he claims that only 5-10% of the theme is still AOI[S]. Which is... well... judge for yourself.
2. I didn't take a permissions screen from a later version as justification for modding the theme. That's complete bullshit.
3. I didn't talk shit to the original authors when I got a C&D. I explained my end to the extent that it was justifiable (mostly, it wasn't), and as you said, dropped it.
I think that's sufficient to show a significant difference in attitude. Was it a fucktarded, assholish thing to do? Yes, and a lot of people yelled at me for it back then, and rightly so.
Do you want me to justify the unjustifiable, or are you just going to accept that I'm not quite the same as several years ago? | 1. Truth. Hes fucking lieing through his teeth.
2. Also bullshit. This is why my permissions screens involve using the latest version IIRC.
3. Personally I never liked foonmix, so I never really saw a need for foonmod, but whatever.
I didn't yell at you, but on the other hand, I went to Tamago before I took his shit (well, OK, before I released it, there were 4 versions of KatzeExtreme you guys never knew about), and I made damn sure that I documented it as such. Honestly the only assholeish thing you did was not ask permission, and I see way more fucking maturity out of you than anyone else who has ever ripped off material at the time, or for that matter, pretty much ever (other than myself, but again, I asked).
Of course I know you're different, I'm different too (Amateur to Professional prick) but the thing to remember here is everybody here, to a certain extent, is guilty of this crime. Shit, even one of the most praised underground coders of the boards, NAKET Coder, does this exact same thing to you... like 4 times. I'll give him one thing though, he changes a lot and at least its fucking hysterical when it happens.
I'm not trying you to justify this, trust me I wouldn't.
On the subject of AEtheros's post.
Of course I understand that. Ive already told you my shits been ripped off a few times. Apparently someone at one point used KatzeUltramix in a cheap bootleg of DDR Ultramix. My theme's have been used, without my permission, in about 30 Stepmania cabinets, each and every single fucking time without my permission, and each and every single fucking time modified to no end. If you think I don't get it, you're just plain stupid. The point of the day is What the fucking shit are we going to do about it.
I mean, we have a strict no tolerance policy of this on bemanistyle, and I will happily ban anyone who comes along and does this kinda fucking crap in front of me to anyone, even Takuya and k//eternal who I have frequently butted heads with. Seriously, Just because I don't always agree with you doesn't mean that I don't care about your rights as artists. I mean seriously, my policy is stupid loose too, if you ask, you can probably have, and stupid dumb motherfuckers like that Dark Element kid, and the DDR EXTREME_N kid cant goddamn handle sending me a 20 word email to ask me for permission. It's not hard, and its not like its a big thing to ask either.
So how are we tackling this.
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03-17-2008, 10:24 PM
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#32 | | lesbian_ for raven_
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Originally Posted by Ętheros So, may I ask, what is it we plan to do? | Well, we just have to remember one thing: we're in the right. So we don't have to resort to more questionable tactics just yet. All we have to do is get a lot of us to sign up on his forum, then spam links to the theme he stole. http://keternal.pestermom.com/AOI-S/.../dongsnopw.zip
We can also post the following screenshots: http://keternal.pestermom.com/AOI-S/...creen00155.png http://keternal.pestermom.com/AOI-S/...creen00157.png http://keternal.pestermom.com/AOI-S/...creen00161.png http://keternal.pestermom.com/AOI-S/...creen00162.png http://keternal.pestermom.com/AOI-S/...creen00163.png
In addition, we will point out the fact that this theme was released in 2006. Everything will speak for itself.
Once he locks down his forum, that's our win.
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03-17-2008, 10:33 PM
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#33 | | .: Trance Music :.
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#34 | | lesbian_ for raven_
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We could always hit on 4/1 for irony.
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#35 | | .: Trance Music :.
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EDIT: Just realized, post 421.
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#36 | | lesbian_ for raven_
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03-18-2008, 09:12 AM
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#37 | | .: Trance Music :.
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03-18-2008, 09:50 AM
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#38 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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#39 | | lesbian_ for raven_
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Anyway, it's either that or this Friday.
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#40 | | I theme for SM4.
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Originally Posted by ramyishappy12 have you ever remembered a kid on the forum called chinaboy ? your better off hacking his forum and shutting it down for Copyrights violation | IIRC, that whole thing was a misunderstanding.
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#41 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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#42 | | STANLEY FUBAR
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Originally Posted by ramyishappy12 some ppl especially AJ or Katz saw this guy named chinaboy on this forum posted theme downloads which he claims is his but it is not his theme and he basically was making everyone angry | Please spell my name correctly.
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#43 | | It's a watermelon!
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Originally Posted by NEX No, there's no actual copyright on this theme, and anyone who thinks they can copyright an interface for an open-source program is an idiot. However, respecting others' intellectual property is a different story. Please do that. | of those of you who seen that video on youtube, that's basically i did... but that jerk ripped me off. | I'd like to know the thinking behind this.
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#44 | | rewards himself with beef
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#45 | | lesbian_ for raven_
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Originally Posted by TyTigeriku I'd like to know the thinking behind this. | Clearly a lack of thinking--what I said is pretty clear. Quote:
Originally Posted by Oni-91 Also, I've noticed that he blurred out the 'Please refrain from being a total cunt' line from the opening screen. Actually, I'm thinking of putting that in my sig, and seeing if he notices. | Let's not tip him off quite yet--while it's fun to mindgame him, we've actually got a trump card on our side that I have to keep secret until the end. You'll see it when it's time.
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