[help] "Resizing" text in songwheel

[Wan]

Well, I need help with the following:

I'm trying to make a little change in PatrickDDRX's DDR 5th Mix theme now that I got the correct font for the songwheel.
My problem is that I can't get the font to be "resized" when the song has subtitles...

Here are 2 screenshots:

1.- Takuya's DDR Extreme theme, where it's perfectly done...


2.- DDR 5th Mix, where I can't manage to do it...



Any hint? I played with the options like LineSpacing, Top, etc in the .ini file (in this case, _shared2.ini) ... without results

[AJ 187]

buncha stuff

[TextBanner]
TwoLinesTitleCommand=zoom,1;maxwidth,180;y,-8
TwoLinesSubtitleCommand=hidden,1
TwoLinesArtistCommand=zoom,0.6;maxwidth,266;y,8
ThreeLinesTitleCommand=zoom,1;maxwidth,180;y,-10
ThreeLinesSubtitleCommand=hidden,0;zoom,.5;maxwidth,360
ThreeLinesArtistCommand=zoom,0.6;maxwidth,266;y,10

[Wan]

Originally Posted by AJ 187

buncha stuff

[TextBanner]
TwoLinesTitleCommand=zoom,1;maxwidth,180;y,-8
TwoLinesSubtitleCommand=hidden,1
TwoLinesArtistCommand=zoom,0.6;maxwidth,266;y,8
ThreeLinesTitleCommand=zoom,1;maxwidth,180;y,-10
ThreeLinesSubtitleCommand=hidden,0;zoom,.5;maxwidth,360
ThreeLinesArtistCommand=zoom,0.6;maxwidth,266;y,10

Hmm, in the DDR 5th Mix metrics those exact lines are typed (values included). I'll try playing with them =D

[Wan]

<le bump>

I have another question:

How can I force the FONT to be in a fixed width?

To explain, again 2 screenshots:

1.- the real DDR 5th Mix:


2.- Stepmania:


Notice the difference, specially in SWING IT and THE TWIST?

[AJ 187]

Not going to happen; official DDR games use files called CARDs that have the text in a specific formatting:


(the above example is four CARDs stacked on top of each other; normally they'd each be separate. This explains some old DDRMAX beta screenshots such as this one)

[Wan]

Originally Posted by AJ 187

Not going to happen; official DDR games use files called CARDs that have the text in a specific formatting:


(the above example is four CARDs stacked on top of each other; normally they'd each be separate. This explains some old DDRMAX beta screenshots such as this one)

Aww, I see. I was precisely checking those images with PSicture and comparimg them with how do the respective songs look in SM.
As I can see, the fonts and the spacing can be reduced, but there's a maximum... checking the images, the shortest text are precisely THE TWIST and SWING IT.

Going directly... is there any option to limit the font width and spacing? The 'maxwidth' command affects the entire chunk of text, and it affects ALL text in the songwheel...

[eVILPeeR]

Not possible.

BUT.

What you're going after IS possible. Get the CARDS AJ was talking about - modify them so all the black is transparent (in GIMP or PS). Know how some songs have to use japanese characters, but SM doesn't provide it? I don't know exactly HOW to do this, but just use that image in place of the text. I think it will work. Also, it has to be defined in the .sm file.

Jeff

[Wan]

Originally Posted by eVILPeeR

Not possible.

BUT.

What you're going after IS possible. Get the CARDS AJ was talking about - modify them so all the black is transparent (in GIMP or PS). Know how some songs have to use japanese characters, but SM doesn't provide it? I don't know exactly HOW to do this, but just use that image in place of the text. I think it will work. Also, it has to be defined in the .sm file.

Jeff

Huh? I thought that method only worked in DWI.
And nope... storing the "text banners" as fonts won't work....

oh, and if it isn't possible, I'll ask if it can be implemented in SM4 :P

[AJ 187]

Originally Posted by Wan

nope... storing the "text banners" as fonts won't work....

Remind me to try proving this wrong when I get home.
(it will most likely require modified simfiles)

[Wan]

Originally Posted by AJ 187

Remind me to try proving this wrong when I get home.
(it will most likely require modified simfiles)

Well, to be honest... I haven't tried it

EDIT: I'm proving myself wrong. IT WORKS. Now I'm re-creating the text banners since deleting the black background with the "Magic Wand" is really annoying

EDIT2: IT WORKS:


The problem is that I had to leave TwoLinesTitleCommand and TwoLinesArtistCommand with "zoom,1"... therefore, the other text-based textbanners look horrible >.<

[AJ 187]

Yeah, this would only really work well in a locked environment where you use SM to simulate 5th Mix. :/

[TakuyaMAXX]

Text resizing is a pain, but it can be done using some average parameters to make it work:
- You must now width and height of each phrase in the song name (name, description and artist)... ex: You should try to get the longest string (name, description or atist) possible to measure its lenght and height (pixel measurement).
- Then you must use proportions to get the exact zoom effect for X and Y.
- Finally get the max size of the text and fix the zoom again if needed.

I'm not saying that it will work perfect, but it will fit most of your song wheel text.

[dieKatze88]

OK, you *COULD* Stretch your font, but thats a bad idea, Youre best off just not doing it, or, try stretching it in real time, this code may work:

zoomx,1.2;maxwidth,yourpixelvaluehere

[Wan]

Actually, I was thinking precisely on stretching the font once I finish all the 5th Mix artist and song TextBanners, with the respective rates specified in the metrics, so when they're zoomed out, they look in the correct size...