Question about character/letter/etc mapping

[Wan]

(if this has to be moved to a more appropriate forum, go ahead)

I have a little problem with a specific char on SM: ♂
I see it clearly in the _shared1 16x16.png and _shared2 16x16.png files, but when I put it in a stepfile title (for example, DDRSN's HONEY♂PUNCH) it shows in the editor as the sphered "?" (therefore, the entire title doesn't show, and instead it loads the TITLETRANSLIT one)

How's it supposed to be mapped? What must I do to effectively see that character in the songname?

[AJ 187]

You saved the .sm file as UTF-8, right?

[Wan]

Originally Posted by AJ 187

You saved the .sm file as UTF-8, right?

Of course, AJ. I've worked with oriental-titled songs :P

[AJ 187]

Well I wasn't sure, but now I know.

With _shared1 and _shared2, the ♂ symbol is actually in the top row, requiring you to use a control code (0x0B) instead of the character. My best guess at this point is to open the .sm in a hex editor and replace the instance of the ♂ with 0B. If the ♂ is a four byte (two hex character) letter, then replace it with a letter before going to hex edit.

This is uncharted territory (aka the first time I've ever seen this situation), so I wish you luck and hope SM doesn't kill everything.

[Wan]

Seems that something else has to be done...

First I edited the character in Notepad and replaced it with a space. Then I opened the .sm with XVI32...


Then I opened it with Notepad to make sure it was correct...


And then I opened SM. I went directly to the Steps Editor, and...

[dieKatze88]

Ive been having this problem with DDR Forever (In General it cant translate)

Im working on correcting the issue, and will post my findings.

[Wan]

Thanks a bunch, Katze. Any help would be appreciated.

[Takeru1412]

Originally Posted by myself

I checked the sm source but ♂ is always be skipped because it is a control code (vertical tabulation). The first 2 rows and the last character of the _shared1 and _shared2 characters are skipped. In other words, you can't use them.

Other characters have aliases (eg. doublezeta,planet). Aliasing is a way to fix this problem but they are hardcoded so you can't make a new one. (I Hope they fix this on SM4)

Another one I can think of (for the desperate) is to replace the graphics of an unused character with ♂. Of course other instances of the character you replaced will show ♂, too.

There may be another way... who knows?

(Haven't got the new source for SM4 but looking at the old ones I have, they both have the same problem.)


About the other characters not showing up properly, maybe the 'Translation' option is set to romanization or maybe the text contain unknown characters (japanese or korean) which haven't been added to the font graphics.

scrap what i said.

[dieKatze88]

Originally Posted by Takeru1412

I checked the sm source but ♂ is always be skipped because it is a control code (vertical tabulation). The first 2 rows and the last character of the _shared1 and _shared2 characters are skipped. In other words, you can't use them.

Other characters have aliases (eg. doublezeta,planet). Aliasing is a way to fix this problem but they are hardcoded so you can't make a new one. (I Hope they fix this on SM4)

Another one I can think of (for the desperate) is to replace the graphics of an unused character with ♂. Of course other instances of the character you replaced will show ♂, too.

There may be another way... who knows?

(Haven't got the new source for SM4 but looking at the old ones I have, they both have the same problem.)


About the other characters not showing up properly, maybe the 'Translation' option is set to romanization or maybe the text contain unknown characters (japanese or korean) which haven't been added to the font graphics.

Keep in mind, this system doesnt work either, I managed to crosslink Doublezeta and OK. Im not sure how, as both have their own glyph.

[Takeru1412]

I found a solution. (tried it earlier but edited the wrong theme fonts -- how stupid)

You can just copy the glyph to the _misc and add ♂ to the 'ini.'
It will look something like this:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(bottom part)
Baseline=23
LineSpacing=24
line 0=☆★♡♥Ω
map doublezeta=5
map planet=6
line 1=←↑→↓☺Σ∠Δ
line 2=♩♪♫♬♭♮♯♂
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

then copy the glyph to the _misc graphics right next to the #


If you plan to add it on the first cell on last row of the graphics, you have add "line 3=♂" in the ini.

I tried editing the _shared ini but you can't save it as utf-8 'cause all text will become '?'

[Wan]

Just in case, Takeru... as you can see, I AM using SM4 :P
I find pretty dumb that those characters are "mapped" in the "_sharedX 16x16.png" files, but the system just skips them O.o

I'll try your idea, and I'll tell you how did it go =)

[Takeru1412]

Originally Posted by Wan

Just in case, Takeru... as you can see, I AM using SM4 :P
I find pretty dumb that those characters are "mapped" in the "_sharedX 16x16.png" files, but the system just skips them O.o

They are in the font graphics because Bitmap Font Builder includes them. I think SM doesn't support unicode input that's why they skipped all the control characters (1st - 31st character). Try it in notepad, hold down ALT then press 13 on the numpad then release ALT. A note will show up in notepad but in command prompt, it's like pressing ENTER.

Oh yeah, I've already tried my idea and it works... in SM3.9 anyway

[AJ 187]

Your idea should work in SM4 as well, Takeru. I should probably add it and some other symbols as well to the official version, why the hell not?

[dieKatze88]

See I tried that shit in position 32. Mabye the problem was where I put it. Hmm.