DDR B1 Results - Almost.... - Page 3

**jammitch!** · 08-14-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sanchny

A few errors:
- jammitch!'s 6.5 was for Geno's Woods, not for Go Berserk. Go Berserk is the one he skipped for some reason.
- jammitch! gave Under The Sea a 5.5, not a 6.5.

Both those are right as given. I skipped Geno's Woods because it's my girlfriend's file, and I gave Under the Sea a 6.5.

#Infinity · 08-14-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Xythar

Let Me Stay should be in the top 10 IMO. I'm hoping Juub's scores push it that extra bit into the challenge round, although it could obviously go either way.

I dislike the song, and seriously, the steps are by far the most generic in the group. Not a single 16th, just some basic streams and annoying jumps. It's playing it way too safe to deserve to be in the top 10.

Zounder · 08-14-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by #Infinity

Not a single 16th

May I ask where 16ths would be plausible in Let Me Stay? o.O

sanchny · 08-14-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jammitch!

Both those are right as given. I skipped Geno's Woods because it's my girlfriend's file, and I gave Under the Sea a 6.5.

Oops, you're right. I double-checked the public reviews threads before I posted that, and I still got it wrong.
Anyway, fixed it in that post you quoted.

Juub005 · 08-14-2006, 10:41 PM

Trust me, Infinity#; Xythar would be one to complain about "not a single 16th"... (yeah that's a reference to last time around)

I'm doing okay. I still feel like I'm recovering from a cold which I'm really not but I'm working my way through Parasite World now; I finished Shake It Down and I'm going to do Under the Sea then the final two charts of Go Berzerk (Beginner and Heavy; don't worry, you're fortunate enough that I completed your Challenge chart beforehand because right now it just wouldn't be that good of an idea for me to judge it). My scores should be complete in a few hours after checking a few things unless I suddenly get really tired and drop out or something, which is also possible.

PlatinumHawke · 08-14-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by #Infinity

I dislike the song, and seriously, the steps are by far the most generic in the group. Not a single 16th, just some basic streams and annoying jumps. It's playing it way too safe to deserve to be in the top 10.

Alot of songs don't have and don't need 16ths to be actually fun on a pad.

#Infinity · 08-14-2006, 10:51 PM

Well, nothing but 16ths can be fun at fast speeds (at least around 180 bpm), but as for a fairly slow song, it's hard to make a stepchart interesting without including them, and Let Me Stay's stepchart was no exception and to me was just extremely generic.

Zounder · 08-14-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by #Infinity

Well, nothing but 16ths can be fun at fast speeds (at least around 180 bpm), but as for a fairly slow song, it's hard to make a stepchart interesting without including them

I ask again, where in Let Me Stay would you place 16ths?

16ths don't work unless they follow something in the music... Nothing in Let Me Stay calls for 16ths at all...

If every slow song had 16ths then there'd be next to none 5 and 6 foot heavy songs in DDR.

This isn't ITG...

PlatinumHawke · 08-14-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zounder

16ths don't work unless they follow something in the music... Nothing in Let Me Stay calls for 16ths at all...

Hello there catch-22.

Use 16ths; "too hard. doesn't follow the music."
Don't use 16ths; "too easy. it's boring."

Zounder · 08-14-2006, 11:12 PM

Where's that emoticon of the head hititng the brick wall when ya need it =P

PkerUNO · 08-15-2006, 12:51 AM

Plus you know my style by now, I don't make very hard charts...

Juub005 · 08-15-2006, 01:09 AM

Let Me Stay is not a "fairly slow" song.

oh by the way I'm done and figuring out where to send my results

edit: okay, Neko's got everything

PlatinumHawke · 08-15-2006, 01:30 AM

The tension mounts!

Xythar · 08-15-2006, 01:43 AM

Pker's previous OSC entry had too many 16ths IMO so I was pleased to see he'd toned it down a bit for this one (in fact, he even had a beta version of the chart which I played which had 16ths and I had suggested that he tone it down). I don't think every single song should be only 8th streams if there is something else you can do, but in some songs it just fits, like this one or Oh My Juliet! from DDRExtreme.co.uk's World Tour.

#Infinity · 08-15-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zounder

I ask again, where in Let Me Stay would you place 16ths?

16ths don't work unless they follow something in the music... Nothing in Let Me Stay calls for 16ths at all...

If every slow song had 16ths then there'd be next to none 5 and 6 foot heavy songs in DDR.

This isn't ITG...

Trust me, I know there isn't any room for 16ths in that song. Not that you always need 16ths to save a song, as I enjoyed All In The Way's Heavy stepchart for its simplicity (its Challenge stepchart is also a great example of why 16ths in non-16th-able songs doesn't work), but also because it was designed in a much more refined matter than Let Me Stay that made it feel fun. All In The Way's streams aren't forced as they are in Let Me Stay and are lightly percipitated to follow the song extremely appropriately. Let Me Stay is mainly just boring 8th streams that we've all seen, as well as annoying jump-steps that make it seem like it should've been in Bracket 2, whose songs are full of those dreadful patterns. The simplicity factor does not show like it does in All In The Way, and instead it's easy to view it as extremely plain.

And about Let Me Stay being fairly slow, I'm viewing 150 bpm as medium tempo, and while Let Me Stay isn't 24 or Under The Sea, it's still below 150.