DDR B2 Results

[lrxevan]

Originally Posted by Zounder

How generic a song is should not be accounted for and 2. my opinion is wrong.

1. that's right

2.you're not allowed to have an opinion on things that are based on facts, nor should there be a "eurobeat penalty" which is what you're suggesting.

I'm done arguing over this. You were obviously biased from the beginning and nothing I say or do is going to change your mind. After all, I'm just the mindless forum troll begging for attention and you're a might step god who also happens to have attended two years of college, studying exactly what we're arguing about -- oh wait.

Genres are scientific. Certain genres have more limits than others. You need to judge within the genre. Instead of saying "eurobeat is generic and thus should receive a penalty," you should say "is this generic FOR EUROBEAT," which you did not.

But that's niether here nor there; the idea that song choice is an acceptable judging mechanic is prevailent in the community, I'm going to get bashed and smashed, and let's face it Zounder, you've already won.

[sanchny]

Originally Posted by jesterline

[Zounder] gave Inspiration a score 10 points lower than everybody else.

jammitch gave it an even lower score, actually.

[Zounder]

Originally Posted by jesterline

From reading your judging it really seems to me that you're biased towards Wowowee (which is a good file that SHOULD be in the top 3 for sure, i agree), it seems kind of ridiculous that you gave Inspiration a score 10 points lower than everybody else. It seems like you judged hard on the Inspiration and easy on Wowowee because maybe you wanted it to win?

Ok first off why are you changing the subject so abruptly? If you wanted to say this why didn't you say this in your first post? are you looking for reasons to piss me off?

How dare you question my integrity. I don't care who wins this competition. I did NOT pad Wowowee's scores to give it a better chance of winning. If I wanted to, what good would it do? Inspiration and Wowowee are both good enough to make it to the next round. Making Wowowee finish higher would accomplish nothing.

This is your first OSC, right? I've been judging since OSC3. Never have I judged without fairness. NEVER have I padded a score. NEVER have I played favorite.

What on earth would possess you to think that I padded his score? It got one point higher than Shake it Down, why didn't you accuse me of padding that score?

I didnt find inspiration as fun overall as Wowwoee so it got slightly lower tilt. It also had a horrid standard chart, so it score got even lower. Otherwise, it's right on par with Wowowee.

Are you done making a total idiot of yourself?

editd for language, along with my other posts.

[lrxevan]

Originally Posted by Zounder

Are you done macking a total jackass of yourself?

No, but he might be done making...
oh nevermind.

[Zounder]

Originally Posted by lrxevan

1. that's right

I ask again, how else should I judge creatitivy of song choice, since really, generic is the opposite of creative?

2.you're not allowed to have an opinion on things that are based on facts

What exactly is based on fact that you are refering to here?

nor should there be a "eurobeat penalty" which is what you're suggesting.

I wouldnt go that far, all I'm saying is most eurobeat is, well, generic eurobeat.

After all, I'm just the mindless forum troll begging for attention and you're a might step god who also happens to have attended two years of college, studying exactly what we're arguing about -- oh wait.

If this is an insult, then it's a really bad one.

Genres are scientific. Certain genres have more limits than others. You need to judge within the genre. Instead of saying "eurobeat is generic and thus should receive a penalty," you should say "is this generic FOR EUROBEAT," which you did not.

Sorry to tell you but I DID do that. Don't know what else to say here.

But that's niether here nor there; the idea that song choice is an acceptable judging mechanic is prevailent in the community

The fact that creativity is on the judging template was not my decision, so you're attacking the wrong person for that.

I'm going to get bashed and smashed, and let's face it Zounder, you've already won.

Yep.

[pokecapn]

- Pivots everywhere, kind of awkward on light, because light players will double step those. A few are ok, but too many makes the player double step too much, and we can't have our light players doing that, can we?

sure we can, because light players double step everything, so it's best to throw in pivots so that more advanced players will enjoy it as a warm up/cool down song or as a freestyle song
if you don't think pivots in light is thoroughly grounded in DDR, take a look at the following 4 foot light charts (8 from 2nd-3rd, 8 from 5th+) some of which even have spins): little bitch, my fire, strictly business to a huge extent, b2u, put your faith in me, flashdance, la senorita, mr wonderful, broken my heart, can't stop fallin in love speed mix, moonlight shadow (duh), no limit, cartoon heroes, kiss kiss kiss, l'amour et la liberte, magic door

i expected that our entry would have to go through the challenge round but i just thought i'd point this out for future judging endeavours

[lrxevan]

Originally Posted by Zounder

Ok first off why are you changing the subject so abruptly? If you wanted to say this why didn't you say this in your first post? are you looking for reasons to piss me off?

How fucking dare you question my integrity. I don't care who wins this competition. I did NOT pad Wowowee's scores to give it a better chance of winning. If I wanted to, what good would it do? Inspiration and Wowowee are both good enough to make it to the next round. Making Wowowee finish higher would accomplish nothing.

This is your first OSC, right? I've been judging since OSC3. Never have I judged without fairness. NEVER have I padded a score. NEVER have I played favorite.

What on fucking earth would possess you to think that I padded his score? It got one point higher than Shake it Down, why didn't you accuse me of padding that score?

I didnt find inspiration as fun overall as Wowwoee so it got slightly lower tilt. It also had a horrid standard chart, so it score got even lower. Otherwise, it's right on par with Wowowee.

Are you done making a total jackass of yourself?

I find "Strongbad Techno" from Tm2 to be more fun than Wowowee, incidentally.

[Azure Haights]

whoah drama let's just dance around that shall we



I think you missed one of my scores - the 7.5 for High School Love. And I'm not sure if that ??? for my Gasolina "score" is messing anything up.

BUT HEY I'M SPELLED RIGHT THIS TIME

[Zounder]

Also, on the question of my favoring Wowowee-

1. I played through the heavy chart over and over looking for something major to fault, to no avail. And it was fun every time I played through.

2. Platinumhawke gave Wowowee a 60/60 on steps. Was HE favoring Wowowee too?

[Zounder]

Originally Posted by lrxevan

I find "Strongbad Techno" from Tm2 to be more fun than Wowowee, incidentally.

Fun is subjective, hence, the tilt score. =D

EDIT: Sorry for double post.

[Xythar]

Anyway,

Zounder, thanks for taking the time to judge bracket 2.

jesterline, lrxevan, thanks for your input, although it'd probably be best to talk to Neko or BlueSS if you have criticisms about the 'creativity' section of the judging criteria, because I think the dispute largely stems from that. Maybe it shouldn't be there, I don't know, it's probably a worthwhile subject for a discussion later on.

[#Infinity]

Eh, 8th place? I wish I'd been ranked a bit higher, but I'm more than glad to at least make the Challenge round this time. That Oni stepchart was a pretty risky idea and backfired against my score.

[lrxevan]

Originally Posted by Zounder

Fun is subjective, hence, the tilt score. =D

EDIT: Sorry for double post.

Right, which is why "fun" can't be a factor in a successful tournament, because everyone has a different idea of what "fun" is.

In bracket 1, I gave a file I hated playing an 8.5, because it's a solid file.

[discovolante]

My name isn't discovolente, and jesus christ Zounder calm down.

[Xythar]

lrxe: Basically, I can see you have a lot of criticisms about the way this tournament is run, but the judges have no choice but to follow those rules if they want to judge. However, as I said if you make a competition run the way you want, I'll enter it - you have my support in that regard, because I'm up for something new.