Okay, I have gotten a pm from discovolante (who, from what I'm seeing, started this argument) about this against rantalus... And the rule I applied to the previous discussion is now in effect here. In other words, discovolante, rantalus, shut up or it's -10 to your scores. Same to others on this discussion. Regardless of the doublesteps or lack thereof, there is no legitimate reason to be insulting other people's skill or lack thereof here.
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