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Old 07-22-2006, 09:59 PM   #16
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This scoring system blows. Either its a great file 3, decent file 2, shitty file 1. I can only give a 0 if there was nothing there. I don't even know what you mean by everything else. What else, graphics, other charts? Very vague instructions on how to score.
Yeah, I totally agree. If we're given a 10/10 rating system for everything instead of this kinda bs system, I'll gladly go back and change my ratings.
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:03 PM   #17
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I could work around this rating system... although it could have probably been better. :P

I got all the KB sims, so I'll begin my review in the respectful thread. Although it won't be finished now, it'll get done by Wednesday.
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:43 AM   #18
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Thanks for the reviews.

Couple points I wanted to make - the 16ths in Vairocana do fit the song at the points where they're used. If you can't make them out at full speed, you might have to slow the song down to hear, but they do match the music.

Also, regarding the 14 rating, I was going by this part of the rules:

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Mark it as compared to ITG files, or as a 14 to 16 if it goes beyond that game in difficulty; or otherwise have a specified standard.
Since Vairocana challenge isn't paddable and therefore beyond ITG in difficulty, I rated it a 14. I wasn't aware that there was an established system in place for determining keyboard ratings since I don't play keyboard files myself, sorry.
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:50 AM   #19
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Yeah, I totally agree. If we're given a 10/10 rating system for everything instead of this kinda bs system, I'll gladly go back and change my ratings.
Quit complaining. It's exactly the same ratio of points the judges work with, and it's meant to be vague so you can choose how you want to reward those last 4 points.
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Old 07-23-2006, 01:55 AM   #20
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challenge 2.5/3 these steps were also pretty awesome to watch, but i feel like you've done the reverse of what most of the people in this contest seem to have done, that is, you made these first, and then took out chunks to make the heavy steps
Yeah you pretty much hit the nail on the head >_>

For heavy I basically just took out the really hard stuff from challenge (12ths, 16ths, jumpstream) and then redid what was left with new streams since just copying directly is kinda cheap. I could have broken up the 8th streams or something but anything I chose to do would be completely arbitrary given that the song just goes and goes for the whole time, so in the end I elected not to. It does leave them quite similar for the most part however.
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:35 AM   #21
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i think these steps were pretty good until you get near the end and start putting a jump at least every beat, the jump usage was pretty liberal and didn't always go with the song
The jumps go with the scream/voice parts, that's why I did so.
Btw I'm glad that at least a few people enjoyed the bpm changes. :D
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:50 AM   #22
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They worked better than some I've seen, but I still think you tend to overuse them.
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:12 PM   #23
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meh.... -_-
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:02 PM   #24
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Since Vairocana challenge isn't paddable and therefore beyond ITG in difficulty, I rated it a 14. I wasn't aware that there was an established system in place for determining keyboard ratings since I don't play keyboard files myself, sorry.
Oh, alright. That makes sense. I put this in my review, "It wasn't supposed to be a 14, more like a 13 or 12." But by these means, I think it appears to me that you are correct.
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:09 PM   #25
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are there any real 13 footers in this pack? besides video out C.
i played them and.. even the 14 footers i got B .. i usually cant pass a 13.
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:32 PM   #26
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fffff Challenge is hard. Apparently, it's also bad because it...uses every sound in the song and follows the music? It's apparently not a good idea to use 16th sounds during a song that's pretty much all 16ths. Or something.

I'm really disappointed in the public reviews for now. Confusing as all hell.
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Old 07-23-2006, 05:20 PM   #27
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It's not that hard since it's slow. Believe me, I can't last 15 seconds on most Challenge Keyboard songs due to all the silly jumps thrown in the runs, but I actually made it rather far in your song, Eggman. Really, I had the hardest time with those 24ths. As for the Heavy steps, they're highly reminding to me of my Challenge stepcart for my Jack in da House simfile. The song was meant to be for the keyboard because of all of the runs, but it turned out to be completely passable on the pad because of how slow it was. fffff is harder, but I'm still sure most people could pad it.
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Old 07-23-2006, 05:47 PM   #28
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I think all it needed was more jump stream at the start and end to match the Pop'n notes, haha

It looked good to me, but I haven't reviewed anything because I can't actually play these files. :P It was Danir's second favourite in the bracket (after Video Out C) when he was playing them over here, tho.
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ok i need to correct my last comment. out of this pack.. it seems like there are no 13 footers. even if they say they are.. or higher. to me they are too easy for a 13footer level. all except z3 and maybe fffff.

and eggman, your song is pretty good. i love keyboard songs and it plays out pretty well. to be a 13 footer.. maybe unless i just got better ^-^ . which is unlikely lol
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fffff Challenge is hard. Apparently, it's also bad because it...uses every sound in the song and follows the music? It's apparently not a good idea to use 16th sounds during a song that's pretty much all 16ths. Or something.

I'm really disappointed in the public reviews for now.
Well, check out my comment. I didn't bomb your challenge steps. I gave them a 2/3 and your overall total was 7.5/10. That's not bad at all. It's even in my favorite 3 songs list. I liked your song choice too, and I don't think the judges will hurt your score as much as others did.
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