Negative BPMs?

gearboQx · 08-14-2006, 01:38 PM

I just got this new song, Tsuhsuixamush, and am really confused. The song starts out normally, something kinda like Pandemonium, but halfway through the song, it starts getting pretty odd. I just stared in awe as steps turned into streams of mines and vise versa.

To see what was going on I went into the step editor and saw a BPM of -77.5, causing the stepchart to skip a few notes. I'm wondering, what exactly do negative BPM's do?

[sorry if this question was already asked, but i searched around but found nothing on this]

Danser · 08-14-2006, 01:57 PM

From my knowledge, just haveing a negative bpm will make the stepchart go backwards... but if you have a forward bpm afterwards, it (The stepchart) will teleport from the negative bpm to the positive.

Arimasen · 08-14-2006, 03:50 PM

If you want a good negative BPM song, get "monotune -respect-" from foonmix2.

TougaKiryuu · 08-14-2006, 04:34 PM

link get?

I wanna see this negative BPM in action

Ben Speirs · 08-14-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gearboQx

I just got this new song, Tsuhsuixamush, and am really confused. The song starts out normally, something kinda like Pandemonium, but halfway through the song, it starts getting pretty odd. I just stared in awe as steps turned into streams of mines and vise versa.

To see what was going on I went into the step editor and saw a BPM of -77.5, causing the stepchart to skip a few notes. I'm wondering, what exactly do negative BPM's do?

[sorry if this question was already asked, but i searched around but found nothing on this]

Oh you mean Tsupseudogamush, that was one of the files on www.stepmania.com. I liked that file a lot, and wanted to do one like that one day, but it's just too confusing! The end of Challeng is a tricky one too, where you see a normal freeze arrow turn into endless mines, and going at 600BPM it's hard not to die :P

sylcmyk+ · 08-14-2006, 05:24 PM

I tried using a negative bpm once and it was all cool and nice until I got an error. Foonmix seems to know loads about stepmania's tricks.

*Akira* · 08-14-2006, 10:19 PM

I also did the negative BPM trick in my Dragostea Din Tei. It works for me

I'll upload it if I got the time.

TougaKiryuu · 08-14-2006, 11:03 PM

i'm still requesting the monotune sim since the foonmix2 download has crashed for the 12th time now

Uber-Zeo · 08-14-2006, 11:28 PM

Already kiddies. I know this one.

A negative BPM causes sm to skip all the arrows until a positive BPM is given.

Patashu · 08-15-2006, 01:29 AM

In that regard it's equivilant to an infinite BPM that works even under a C-mod?

TougaKiryuu · 08-15-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Uber-Zeo

Already kiddies. I know this one.

A negative BPM causes sm to skip all the arrows until a positive BPM is given.

I was about to post about that but you beat me to it, the effect is cool but you only want to use these types of files for things like mission mode

Patashu · 08-15-2006, 04:12 PM

Aperson used negative BPM well in his Growth Grass.

Xythar · 08-16-2006, 07:29 AM

There's a negative BPM song in Cheesemix 3 too, as well.

I think negative BPM actually causes SM to 'warp' you forward from the point at which it becomes negative past the point at which the BPM becomes positive again by a certain amount (I think twice as many beats as you spend in negative BPM).

sjoecool1991 · 08-16-2006, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Patashu

Aperson used negative BPM well in his Growth Grass.

OMG, I just played that file, and it was seriously crazy. Lost of bpm changes and negative bpm.

*Akira* · 08-16-2006, 10:45 PM

okay, here goes my dragostea din tei
http://www.bemanistyle.com/sims/simfile.php?id=5912
enjoy