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Old 06-18-2006, 01:22 PM   #1
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Saved from 6.0, by Zhek. Some of it is ludicrously out of date, but it's still valuable for the newbies:

First off, this is largely the idea of jammitch! and I, but I really need the support of the community on this. It's a multi-tiered project with elements coming from many parts of our expertise, and I think it's a topic we all know and enjoy well enough.

Ok, I'm going to do a community project (yah!) Basically the idea is to make something even bigger then foonmix. By making it a large community project we bring in a lot of talent, and by dividing it by interest and talent, we filter out and get a diverse end result.

General theme for this is a Video Game mix. Any song in a game (including "real" songs) or a remix/varient there of are fair game, though straight off, we're banning anything from DDR, or any other dance game (games that are featured both a dance/music game and another game should be debated on the intended mix used) A regulating committee will help make sure we keep these songs original and diverse. jammitch! has suggested one song per game, but this may discourage more original entries getting because the one popular song a game has gets all the support. Basically anything with enough interest should be admited, with an eye towards diverse and original (and STEPABLE) potential. I'd like a small group of people to regulate it (with myself and jammitch!, since we thought of it being already elected ^_^ but diverse enough and including people from both DDRMX and BS (Including regular users if possible) so we get a good group.

The project should comprise several elements:

- Songs - Songs should be selected based on interest, and we'll divide the cutting job down to people who are interested and have known experience at it. Together as a community we'll vote on common values (BPM, pauses, etc.)

- Steps - Steps should be divided up again, on interest, I think we should favor people with known talent, but the critical issue is that interest exists, if someone HATES doing beginner steps, we don't make him do it, or if someone HATES X or Y song, we don't give it to them. We count interest up, and if there's more then one person per song (or difficulty, probably) then we go for some sort of randomized method of making sure we get a fair share to everyone who wants to go in for it, and by dividing by steps, we keep each song fresh and original. I'm all for including keyboard steps (I'm aiming for SM's Edit steps) and ItG as challenge. DWI does not support edit steps, but we'd just move the edit steps down to challenge difficulty as it doesn't support mines either way. I'm aiming for complete sets of steps, if at all possible, but we'll see what demand can bring. Steps probably shouldn't be shared, I think that if we go "blind" with it, we can get LARGELY varied steps... If interest is high enough, we could relink mp3/ogg and graphics to additional steps (maybe redo graphics to desiganate an alternate set.)

- Banners & Backgrounds - Have interested parties divided up to provide one half of banner/backgrounnd pairs, again divided by interest and randomized to give a fair share to everyone that wants to try. I'd like to keep a general consitancy, but only quality wise, so long as they're decent I don't care who does them or how they did it. I talked to jammitch! about it, and he made the good point that by using different artists on each half, we make sure unique banners are made, rather then simple background crops/rearrangements. I'm personally in agreement for it, though we may lose coherency...

- Courses - Thanks to ItG support we have a huge amount of replayability available, given the community aspect, we can do pretty much ANY amount of these, and there's no limit on what we can do with these.

- BGAnimations - While movies could be possible, I think a lot of people would want to do music videos, which I don't think we should do. Videos also tend to be very large, and I think a more reasonable use would be BGAnims. While they aren't cross compatable, I think we could work out getting some made for both programs.

- Theme - Last to do, we'll get the details on this when we have an idea of what we want to do. I'm not aiming to do something amazing, though if I had a high enough interest in it I'd go for it. I'm thinking of doing a contest styled theme (ie, Sim Community Community Theme #1).

I think like DDROSC, we could have a contest for the mix banner.

Any details you'd like to clarify, ideas, suggestions, criticisms, are welcome.

Interest/ability to perhaps regulate this are also welcome. I'd appreciate your support and look forward to seeing what we can do as a community. Listing your previous work helps to make sure we can use you with what you know and are capable of doing, and of course, your interest, NO ONE should be doing something they don't like.

There is currently no set date on this and I don't plan on having one till we're able to gauge interest. We'll nominate songs when we're settled. After songs are selected (and I'm aiming for a high number with good diversity) we'll settle on default values for BPM, pauses. If we're unable to get a consensus on these values, but we're able to at least settle on a few sets, we may run alternate versions of single songs with different values and steps, which I think might be interesting to have (increasing diversity even further). We'll obviously have to cut songs down to, and we'll see if we can't get enough interest in making sure we get a diverse set of these people, who cuts the song will make a very significant deal on steps afterwards. Next, steps will be made, and again, I'd like to divide EACH difficulty based on interest and randomize it to give everyone a fair shot. Regulation should ensure we get quality steps, but WHO makes them should be unbiased and random. Next (or during, rather) we'll assign artists again randomly to do banners, and another set to do backgrounds. So long as interest exists, I don't mind people getting to do multiple jobs on multiple songs, but I'd like to make sure each song has only one element coming from any one person. BGanimations to tie the songs down, and if at possible, just Videogame related ones in general are what I'd like to see. Next, courses, and here I don't mind any person entering more then one, and in fact, I encourage as many courses as possible. So long as they don't suck, of course. Banners on these can be handled the same way as everything else. Courses I think we can do as a community and arrange themed courses based on voting, but I'd like some individual entries as well, and in fact, more courses then songs wouldn't be a bad idea given how easy they are to make. Lastly, the theme, but I have no solid ideas on what this should be, other then a general contest styled theme. If we have interest, we'll go full out, otherwise I'll just see if we can't knock together a community contest theme (whether I have to do it myself or what, I don't care, so long as it's there. It doesn't have to be the best, it's the mix itself I think that will be the best part of this.)

Sim support should be equal, if at all possible, include support at each step for DWI. I know not everything will carry over, but I don't feel being biased about it is worth doing. No reason to disregard a large part of either side of the community.

if you need to e-mail me, zhekthek@hotmail.com

Currently I know jammitch! is interested. I discussed it with him, and he's definitely my bounce off ideas guy, but if anyone else has interest in this and suggestions, PLEASE, feel free to send 'em my way. Nothing should be TOO solidified at this point, but I've settled on some things to ensure some concreteness so we can get this done.

Let's kick ass on this guys ^_^ I'm going to get this done one way or another, but I'd love support from anyone who's interested, even if it's just, "I'd like to see this" but if you'd like to enter, all the better... ^_^

Regulation and handling voting will be settled when interest is guaged. I'm hoping we can pull this off ^_^

Jobs open:
- Artists
- Step makers
- Course makers
- BGAnimation makers
- Regulators (if all you're interested is this, the answer is no. If you are interested, I hope you have interest in the project as a whole, and the capacity to both enter stuff, and to help decide content)
- SONG MAKERS (anyone able to create original content in this regard is LARGELY encouraged to participate and I would much appreciate getting ahold of me if you're capable of doing so.)
What we'll need to finish this (what we'll be making):
- Songs
- Steps
- Banners
- Backgrounds
- Courses
- BGAnims
- A theme (we'll handle this last, don't worry about it now, it's unimportant)

THIS IS NOT A CONTEST, YOU DON'T WIN, YOU CAN'T LOSE. THIS IS TO BE A JOINT SELECTION OF EVERYTHING IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, THIS WILL MEAN CONTENT YOU PROBABLY DON'T LIKE, diversity should be high, so hopefully everyone gets something they like out of it.

Note to admins/moderators of Bemanistyle, if at all you'd like to help support this either with your own entries or perhaps hosting, officializing this, I'd be VERY appreciative.
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