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REVIEW: GuitarFreaks V4 & DrumMania V4 (US LOCTEST)
Posted by June.H - Thu 10/11 2007 - 06:44 PM - 2389 Views

Guitar Freaks and DrumMania has been put under the spotlight as of late because of the local competition's software, and by all means, Konami now has to show that they've got what it takes to compete with the "American counterpart," so to speak.

Those that have played Guitar Freaks and DrumMania, we know what to expect. However, with this U.S. location test, did Konami do enough?

To make this easier, we'll start from the perspective of one that already know what to expect.

GFdm V4 is everything you can expect from a new release. The song selection is far more diverse though, and for better or for worse, it gives the game more of an American feel. The default sort already showcases a fair amount of American songs, as opposed to the other versions of GFdm, where the default sort is all the new songs. The interface and...well everything about the game gives the atmosphere of more an American-focused game than a typical gimmicky Japanese GFdm game of the past (such as the industrial thing of V, "Live2Go" from V2, and the space galaxy I-don't-know-WTF-that-was from V3...we won't even go into the super-pink "It's A Showtime!!!" from 11/10).

Initial impressions aside though, what about the rest of the game? Definitely not disappointing.

First off, let's go about with the features; the old command for increasing scroll speed now brings up the Play Style Menu. This is way more invaluable than having to choose the song first, then holding start down and get the menu that way.

Although Hazard was taken out, Konami now implemented "half-dark," which is pretty cool for those that want to play with the feature on, but don't like the entire screen being blackened out, relying purely on gut instinct timing...although I don't know if it was worth replacing Hazard for. Maybe a Nonstop bar.

Which brings me to my next point: Grand Prix mode. The good thing is that if you have e-amuse, Grand Prix replaces Nonstop mode. The good parts: you can choose from a pre-set course, which you may have to fulfill prerequisites for (such as having enough Grand Prix points, which you earn through other GP modes), or you can play the ROCKxROCK cup, which allows you to play any song for 4 stages. Best part of GP mode? You don't have to deal with the Nonstop Mode bar. This means you can actually recover your bar instead of being stuck with a one-way bar for the entirety of your 4 song set, AND your scores can be saved, PLUS you earn GP points so you can qualify for other GP courses! Pretty sweet deal, except that you can't play any Extra Stage songs and you cannot use any Auto or Light options.

Now what if you don't have e-amuse? Sadly, you're SOL; you're stuck with basically Standard Mode, Beginner, and Battle.

This brings me to my next point: Battle mode. Luckily, the Location Test let's you use Battle Mode just like they have in Asia, as long as e-Amusement is up and running. Later in the night, we were able to play real-time against people overseas, which proved far more feasible to beat than the computer opponents, which were plain frustrating, even on easier modes. If you've played V3 CS, you know what to expect: you pick a song, and your opponent picks a song. You each play a song, and person with the best total points/combo/perfects (you choose what you want to battle) wins. You can win new titles (which are mostly for showing off), songs, modes, and stuff! It's pretty fun, especially if you know you're playing against a live person you don't even get to see.

The only real downer about that is that to play against a live person overseas (since there's no other US test location yet), you can only battle around after 9PM to find an opponent. If you don't find anyone, you're stuck against the computer, which sometimes just isn't fair.

Standard Mode is...well standard mode. The timer seems to be slower thankfully, but I think some changes to the interface may make it easier to read for non-players. Those that are already familiar with the interface might find too many things going on in the screen at once or too many songs to choose from.

So if you're a non-GFdm player, what can you expect?

The nice thing about Konami is that the default sort is that they have a chunk of songs (in yellow) lined up so that if you don't know ANY songs on GFdm, some of these might appeal to you...songs such as September (EW&F), Fat Lip, Blood And Thunder, Move Over, Nemesis (Arch Enemy), Black Night (Deep Purple), Paranoid (Black Sabbath), Misirlou, Rock And Roll All Nite, Panasonic Youth, Get Going, and much more. However, the game still needs to be a little more beginner friendly; there aren't many people who will actually want to play Beginner mode, especially since most people are already thinking "I already play that guitar game on PS2 or 360, this is the same thing, I don't need a beginner mode," just to be unpleasantly surprised that it's a different game.

Overall, it's great that Konami's making an effort and knows what they're dealing with, but there still needs to be some more done before they can start attracting the non-GF and non-DM playing audience.

As a first step, it's very good. At the same time, they're also appealing to those that are already familiar with the GFdm franchise.

Oh yeah and the songs are really good to boot.

Rating: 0 Positive | 0 Negative

Comments
Gosha Posted by Gosha - Thu 10/11 2007 - 07:40 PM     [ quote ]  
The screens on the monitors look more vibrant. Are these cabinets the same as the Japanese ones? Or are they made by Betson? I'm wondering if they use the same ones as SN dedicabs.
 
eddie Posted by eddie - Thu 10/11 2007 - 08:42 PM     [ quote ]  
They're Japanese cabinets. They're brand new though, which could contribute to it. Konami has been doing alot of cabinet upgrading as of late with the newer releases.
 
Posted by gtc - Thu 10/11 2007 - 11:55 PM     [ quote ]  
The DM screen is kind of screwed up at the top, really shaky and . . . I don't know how to accurately describe it right now. But definitely still playable.

I love using my "e-AMUEMENT" pass (lol signs).
 
LouieT Posted by LouieT - Fri 10/12 2007 - 12:27 AM     [ quote ]  
V3's theme was based on the background movie of Orbital Velocity.
The skin of GF11/DM10 was loosely based on the background movie of Get It All.

Did anyone at the location test know when V4 is planned to be available?
 
VenomEX Posted by VenomEX - Fri 10/12 2007 - 01:20 AM     [ quote ]  
played it at sunnyvale golfland....

v4 - i dub thee lame

konami needs to learn how put some love into their american choices for songs.

september? common...

fat lip sounded like a bunch of girls screaming

rock & roll all nite sounded like the singers were bored and not getting paid much

and i refused to play paranoid when i saw that it wasn't the full version. how dare you cut back on the sabbath...how dare you

I have lost all faith in the GF/DM series, i gave them a chance after party hard...but after seeing this as an attempt to rock, i hang my head in shame.

rock band, take me away
 
Davyn Posted by Davyn - Fri 10/12 2007 - 06:42 AM     [ quote ]  
The command for changing the song sort (Hold bass and hit Green Green) brings up the Play style menu. the speed change command is still the same (bass bass).

and brand new bemani machines (well gf, dm, and pop'n) all have flat crt screens now. it's nice.
 
Monster in a box Posted by Monster in a box - Fri 10/12 2007 - 03:52 PM     [ quote ]  
VenomEX, maybe you should've picked the good stuff instead of the US fodder.
 
Brazoliange Posted by Brazoliange - Fri 10/12 2007 - 09:39 PM     [ quote ]  
Have fun with the drum set without a hi-hat as far as accuracy goes, VenomEX :p
 
Ry19.com Posted by Ry19.com - Fri 10/12 2007 - 11:02 PM     [ quote ]  
The Official GF & DM v4 e-Amusement Scoring System!

This site is currently mostly in Japanese but will be translated as more of the Bemani games are available in the North America. You e-Amusement scores are currently on the server based in Japan so you will be able to view your high scores with the rest of the world’s scores.

This site will be updating so the Japanese market is aware they are in Battle Mode with the United States so there will be more available players. The time difference between Japan and the United States is, 14 hours. So if it’s 10:00pm here CST it’s 12:00 pm JST.

Also, the Maniac Player will available on Standby on October 14 & 15 from 19:00 – 22:00 from Japan to Battle against the American Players!!

http://www.konami.jp/bemani/gfdm/gfdmv4/
 
Posted by Månåtor v0.25 - Sat 10/13 2007 - 01:32 PM     [ quote ]  
Ryan...I hate you guys for getting this stuff.
When you guys got IIDX...I flew out there from Oklahoma..
When you guys got DDRSN2...I flew out there from Oklahoma..
Now you get GFv4 - I can't fly out there from Oklahoma!
I hate you guys SOOOO much...

Why can't you guys be closer? ;_;
 
June.H Posted by June.H - Sat 10/13 2007 - 02:42 PM     [ quote ]  
VenomEX: No one asked you to like V4, but judging on your reaction, I doubt you actually were a fan of the GFdm series to begin with.

-Covers artist were rarely good. Even the Japanese cover artists were never that good, but then again, IMO Harmonix cover artists don't fare worlds better.

-Very very few licenses songs are full versions, and have been since 3rd Mix. Why? Probably because most licenses are boring as piss to play as a long version. See: repetitive. Guitar Hero can get away with it I'm guessing because the 5-buttons probably break the monotony of repetition better than 3-buttons do.

-Judging by your posting history, you're more playing v4 on a GH fan standpoint; let's make this clear as Pepsi (Crystal Clear): Guitar Freaks is NOT Guitar Hero, nor is DrumMania/Session/Super Session like Rock Band. It's like trying to compare DDR to PIU or to ITG. They're completely different games with different focuses.

If you feel you need to bash a particular game because it's not YOUR favorite game, grow up and get over it.
 
Posted by syk-iidx - Sat 10/13 2007 - 05:57 PM     [ quote ]  
I'm just happy that my 3-yr old e-amuse card still works, hahaha
 
Posted by dreamdatedoug - Sun 10/14 2007 - 05:49 PM     [ quote ]  
"rock band, take me away"

You won't be missed. Take Omega with you. :P
 
Posted by doctofu - Mon 10/15 2007 - 05:02 PM     [ quote ]  
Wow can't believe I actually have this game at my local arcade. After V lost its 2P guitar about a year ago and it was never replaced. I was OK with it. When the buttons constantly disappear only to be replaced weeks later I was OK with that. When I came in and V wasent where it normally was but in the game graveyard corner, I wasent OK with that. However they have completely fixed the entire cabinet (2nd guitar, buttons, et all) put V4 in it and kept it in the corner where nobody goes, definately OK. No E-muse card and no session, but that alright 'cause I pretty much got it to myself...for now
 

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