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Pop'n Music 18 Sengoku Retsuden Location Test!
Posted by Malcolm - Wed 08/19 2009 - 08:37 PM - 3834 Views

Its everyones favorite time of the year, location test time! This time its Pop'n Music 18 Sengoku Retsuden. Enough with the chit chat, onto the songlist

Genre/Title/Artist/ N/H/EX / BPM / Character
ポジティブ2 (Positive 2) / Heart of dreams / 浅井裕* / 14/24/29 / 112 BPM / sunny
パラボラ (Parabola) / パラボラ / パー*ッツ / 15/27/31 /125 BPM / mint
エレクト**ック (Electro Rock) / Let it go / 阿部靖広 / 16/26/35 / 134 BPM / MAKOTO
マンドリンステップ (Mandolin Step) / Liebe~望郷~ / 劇団レコード feat.さな / 17/26/35 / 100 BPM / Kicoro
シンフォニック陣楽 (Symphonic Easy Team?) / 天の* / Q-Mex / 18/29/36 / 126 BPM / KANENOBU
撫*メタル (Nadeshiko Metal) / 黒髪乱れて修羅となって / 村*クオリア / 19/36/40 / 150 BPM / Mimi
チップン*ール (Chip'n Roll) / 青春ピコピコRock'n Roll / ウッチーズZ/ 20/30/37 / 160 BPM / Nyami
ヒップ*ック5 (Hip Rock 5)/ 一撃必翔 / Des-ROW組 スペシアルr / 20/37/- / 213 BPM / *
てくのほそみち (Tekno Hosomichi) / 五七五 / V.C.O. / 22/31/38 / 110-220 BPM / GOSHICHI
レディースメタル (Ladies Metal) / 麗*唖甦~rebirth~ / good-cool ft.AYANO / 22/33/41 / 178 BPM / Mimi
オリエンタルフォーク*ア (Oriental Folk Core) / 旗 / Akino / 23/33/39 / 132 BPM / KAGAMI

I'll be updating and correction as more information comes in!



Rating: 9 Positive | 0 Negative

Comments
cstarflare Posted by cstarflare - Wed 08/19 2009 - 09:31 PM     [ quote ]  
hip rock 5 hi5
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Thu 08/20 2009 - 12:41 AM     [ quote ]  
new parquets :D Parabola is an interesting genre title
 
Malcolm Posted by Malcolm - Thu 08/20 2009 - 12:47 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deca
new parquets :D Parabola is an interesting genre title
not really a new song, the genre is parabola cause thats the album its from

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUSszA65-eM thats the song
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Thu 08/20 2009 - 05:25 AM     [ quote ]  
Great, yet another pop'n music game I can't play. That makes a grand total of four. And as consolation, Konami gives us... Wii pop'n music, and Beat'n Groovey. I hate Konami soooo much right now.
 
sinh(Lily) Posted by sinh(Lily) - Thu 08/20 2009 - 06:09 AM     [ quote ]  
I uhh.. hope this makes up for the disappointing songlist of PnM 17.
 
Jumbo Posted by Jumbo - Thu 08/20 2009 - 07:00 AM     [ quote ]  
More Ucchies Z yase
 
Posted by dj ralph - Thu 08/20 2009 - 10:30 AM     [ quote ]  
Positive 2 yesssss!!!
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Thu 08/20 2009 - 11:51 AM     [ quote ]  
WHERE THE HELL IS MY NEW POP'N MUSIC CS GAMES!? SCREW KONAMI!
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Thu 08/20 2009 - 01:25 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malcolm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deca
new parquets :D Parabola is an interesting genre title
not really a new song, the genre is parabola cause thats the album its from

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUSszA65-eM thats the song
Oh cool, thanks for the info. Digging the song :)
 
PatamonKid Posted by PatamonKid - Thu 08/20 2009 - 02:27 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
WHERE THE HELL IS MY NEW POP'N MUSIC CS GAMES!? SCREW KONAMI!
Yeah, why don't they just stop making AC versions too. Screw them.

See that cliff over there? Go. Jump.
 
Zy10 Posted by Zy10 - Thu 08/20 2009 - 07:42 PM     [ quote ]  
Nadeshiko Metal?

I like where this is going.
 
Posted by Renard - Fri 08/21 2009 - 03:41 AM     [ quote ]  
everybody complaining about the lack of Pop'n CS games needs to go and take a long, hard shit.
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Fri 08/21 2009 - 04:49 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renard
everybody complaining about the lack of Pop'n CS games needs to go and take a long, hard shit.
Why shouldn't we be allowed to complain? I've never played 15, 16, 17, and I'm probably never gonna get to play 18 either. Our arcade near me only has 14, and it's gotten boring. I wanna get a chance to play the other games too, and it's not fair that Konami refuses to announce any new CS games for the PS2. And until they do, I'm gonna be mad about it.
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Fri 08/21 2009 - 11:29 AM     [ quote ]  
Ditto. I've been a huge pop'n music fan since 9, but Konami has never made it easy. Now they're cutting me off completely from playing a game I love, and I think being pissed off is the natural reaction here. My only consolation is that in ten years I may be able to play the games once they're emulated in MAME. Although even at the lowest latency setting MAME sucks for music games.
 
Slarty Posted by Slarty - Fri 08/21 2009 - 12:11 PM     [ quote ]  
A little perspective on this. The releases between pop'n 7 8 and 9 CS were very long gaps and pop'n players were very patient. Then Konami suddenly started releasing AC to CS games quickly as from 10 - 14. With very long delay from 14 to 15 will piss people off because most will expect the same promptness of releases.

Oh I and I take "long hard shits" everyday thanks to a digestive disease, thank you very much.
 
Joe P. Posted by Joe P. - Fri 08/21 2009 - 12:25 PM     [ quote ]  
My long hard shit will be left off in this thread.


All you cigarettes that are hating on pop'n home version are all DDR people. DDR home versions suck. Pop'n home versions don't.

Take into consideration that every other bemani game (except gf/dm... and of course Jubeat) gets home releases pretty constantly. You DDR people are getting a new game for every system on the market. IIDX is getting empress while pop'n is stuck on 14... Oh and that Wii version but thats humiliating all of us. We're pissed. Yeah konami is still making AC games and thats a good thing but as far as those who don't have access to the game (japan and america alike) they are alienating them and those who would like to play at home. If 15CS ever came out, I'd buy a copy. I'm sure there are a lot of people here who would. And probably a lot more that would buy it in japan too.

You boys calm down and stick to your DDR stuff.
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Fri 08/21 2009 - 12:44 PM     [ quote ]  
OK I totally understand people being pissed off about the lack of CS releases, trust me I'm pretty irked myself. I've been playing since around when 9 released, built my own ASC and have worked my way up into 41s on it, so I'd say I have a fair amount of time invested in the games.

But honestly I don't think it's fair to discredit arcade releases just because you're upset that there aren't any new CSs.

I know this exact thing has probably been mentioned by others many times already but I'll say it anyway.

It honestly makes a lot of sense for them not to be too concerned with Popn CS releases in Japan. Pop'n Music ASCs are expensive, large, and loud. Japanese houses/apartments/etc tend to be small and close together, leading to both space and noise issues. We all know it's not the same game at all on a mini controller. Also there is NO shortage of Pop'n Music arcade machines in Japan. As I understand it you don't even have to go to an arcade to find one.

Don't forget that Pop'n Music is for the Japanese market.

All that said I'm still bummed about the lack of releases :( It just irks me to see people bitch and moan about this constantly like they're entitled to the releases and the lack thereof has been a personal attack at the Pop'n fanbase.
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Fri 08/21 2009 - 01:09 PM     [ quote ]  
Really, I think we are just getting frustrated because we know that as pop'n music players outside of Japan, we are in such a minority that Konami doesn't give a rat's ass about us. No one is trying to "discredit" arcade releases. In fact, if there was a local arcade that I knew was getting pop'n music 18, I'd have absolutely nothing to complain about.
 
Arbel Posted by Arbel - Fri 08/21 2009 - 07:37 PM     [ quote ]  
"Don't forget that Pop'n Music is for the Japanese market. "

This x 1000

I think people tend to forget this. Just be happy Arcade Pop'n is alive and well in Japan. Sucks we haven't seen a CS release in a while, but I'm sure Konami makes hardly anything off them, and possibly a loss.
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Sat 08/22 2009 - 04:19 AM     [ quote ]  
Just what exactly is that supposed to mean? Are you implying that I should be happy I can't play my favorite music game because everyone in Japan gets to? Sorry, no sale. I want to play the game, I'm willing to pay just as much for the privilege as anyone in Japan does, so why shouldn't I be able to?

Are you saying I have no right to play the game in the first place because Konami only wants to release it in Japan? I don't buy that either. I'm sure Konami would release it in America too if it weren't for the game's lack of marketability, and the music licencing issues. It's not that they hate Americans and want to keep pop'n music away from us. In fact the even tried officially brining the first pop'n music arcade game to America, but it did poorly, so they didn't try it with any future editions. And they did try releasing Beat'n Groovy in America, although their efforts were severely misguided.

I also don't buy that Konami would sell pop'n music CS at a loss. They may not make as much money as their other games, but no company in their right mind would release over 14 editions of a game for home consoles if it was costing them money. And if they think they are not making enough money, then for god's sake, just raise the price. I don't know about anyone else, but I would pay up to and including $200 for a new pop'n music CS game right now. Even if that's not the case for everyone, I'm sure the vast majority of people would tolerate a moderate price hike at this point, just to finally get ahold of the next CS game.

Any furthermore, Konami is giving us no information as to what the hold up is with the CS releases, so all our assumptions about why they won't release a new version are baseless to begin with. If Konami would even give us a reasonable explanation for why they halted the CS releases, it'd still be better than two years of silence. As it is, they are stringing us along, even though the possibility exists they have no intention of ever releasing a CS game again.

So yea, say what you want, but no pop'n music CS releases for two years with no explanation as to why, is a load of crap.
 
Arbel Posted by Arbel - Sat 08/22 2009 - 06:35 AM     [ quote ]  
I'd suggest to pass on these comments to Konami themselves if you want to make a difference. I don't have any sales data on the games, but I highly doubt CS mixes make much for Konami compared to IIDX. (Like Deca says, it's much easier just to go to an arcade in Japan and noise is a huge issue) And that's the point, the market is for Japan. We, and the Japanese CS community, are an EXTREMELY small minority. Pop'n is still one of the top played arcade games, so I can understand why they are shifting their focus to it soley (and casual Wii Pop'n which might make more money) I don't personally enjoy it, but hey they are a business like any other company.

You have every right to complain, but doing it here won't accomplish much. Pass it along to Konami.
 
Mint Mania IIDX Posted by Mint Mania IIDX - Sat 08/22 2009 - 07:22 AM     [ quote ]  
KONAMI OWES ME A NEW POP'N GAME ON A DYING CONSOLE
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Sat 08/22 2009 - 08:28 AM     [ quote ]  
>You have every right to complain, but doing it here won't accomplish much. Pass it along to Konami.

Unfortunately, I don't think Konami cares about my opinion in the first place. Complaining to them directly probably does a lot less good then trying to spread a general sense of outrage among the pop'n music CS community.

>KONAMI OWES ME A NEW POP'N GAME ON A DYING CONSOLE

They don't "owe" me anything. Sure I have been supporting them by buying their games up to this point, but that has nothing to do with it, right? And I could care less what console they put it on. Put it on the Sega Saturn for all I care, I just want to get it in whatever form possible.

Edit: Actually, I take that back, they do owe me for Beat'n Groovy. Not that I bought it, but the very idea that the game exists fill me with a constant sense of disgust. :P
 
kannazuki Posted by kannazuki - Sun 08/23 2009 - 11:07 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xzyx987X
Just what exactly is that supposed to mean? Are you implying that I should be happy I can't play my favorite music game because everyone in Japan gets to? Sorry, no sale. I want to play the game, I'm willing to pay just as much for the privilege as anyone in Japan does, so why shouldn't I be able to?
This made me laugh for a good long time. If you're that pissed and as you said, willing to pay for it, then why don't you just buy a pnm 15 arcade machine?
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Mon 08/24 2009 - 12:15 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xzyx987X
Just what exactly is that supposed to mean? Are you implying that I should be happy I can't play my favorite music game because everyone in Japan gets to? Sorry, no sale. I want to play the game, I'm willing to pay just as much for the privilege as anyone in Japan does, so why shouldn't I be able to?

Are you saying I have no right to play the game in the first place because Konami only wants to release it in Japan? I don't buy that either. I'm sure Konami would release it in America too if it weren't for the game's lack of marketability, and the music licencing issues.
It's not that konami is out to get you, or is actively trying to keep you from playing pop'n, it's just that they don't OWE anything to you personally. They're not marketing CS releases to the fringe import scene. It's not like they promised you these releases and then changed their mind at the last minute.

It's understandable to be frustrated about the situation, we all are, but outright anger and a sense of entitlement doesn't really make any sense.
 
Arctures Posted by Arctures - Mon 08/24 2009 - 01:13 AM     [ quote ]  
Messy Black Hair Like a Battlefield

great title
 
Posted by Renard - Mon 08/24 2009 - 06:38 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe P.
All you cigarettes that are hating on pop'n home version are all DDR people. DDR home versions suck. Pop'n home versions don't.
i've been playing pop'n CS installments since CS8, i'm well aware they don't suck. i'm also not a "ddr person" per se. i'm pretty tired of "give us a CS" every time konami puts out a new arcade mix.

you're lucky to be able to play any pop'n music at all considering it's only ever been released in japan. if you've bought a japanese PS2 / modded yours and imported the games, that's good on you, but you also aren't the market konami's targeting. if there's no demand over there (which is likely at this point) for a new CS release, it's not gonna happen. i don't see why some people can't wrap their heads around "you don't live there and are not the target demographic".
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Mon 08/24 2009 - 08:31 AM     [ quote ]  
Actually, that's not really true. When importers buy the game, it shows up on Konami's bottom line just as much as when someone in Japan buys it. It's just that importers don't add as much to the bottom line (probably under 5,000 units worldwide), so they aren't the biggest piece of the pie. But if importers quit buying the game, it would make a noticeable mark on the sales. So I'd say importers are a part of Konami's market, whether they realise it or not.
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Mon 08/24 2009 - 02:52 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xzyx987X
Actually, that's not really true. When importers buy the game, it shows up on Konami's bottom line just as much as when someone in Japan buys it. It's just that importers don't add as much to the bottom line (probably under 5,000 units worldwide), so they aren't the biggest piece of the pie. But if importers quit buying the game, it would make a noticeable mark on the sales. So I'd say importers are a part of Konami's market, whether they realise it or not.
It's a negligible amount of sales compared to what they make in their target market. It's no secret that most of the players outside of Japan probably pirate the game anyway.

Of course they're aware of the western community and import scene but that doesn't really change anything.
 
sherl0k Posted by sherl0k - Mon 08/24 2009 - 03:17 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renard
everybody complaining about the lack of Pop'n CS games needs to go and take a long, hard shit.
Why shouldn't we be allowed to complain? I've never played 15, 16, 17, and I'm probably never gonna get to play 18 either. Our arcade near me only has 14, and it's gotten boring. I wanna get a chance to play the other games too, and it's not fair that Konami refuses to announce any new CS games for the PS2. And until they do, I'm gonna be mad about it.
well mister honorary striker, you don't pay for any of your games/media anyway, how hypocritical of you to complain
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Mon 08/24 2009 - 04:15 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherl0k
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renard
everybody complaining about the lack of Pop'n CS games needs to go and take a long, hard shit.
Why shouldn't we be allowed to complain? I've never played 15, 16, 17, and I'm probably never gonna get to play 18 either. Our arcade near me only has 14, and it's gotten boring. I wanna get a chance to play the other games too, and it's not fair that Konami refuses to announce any new CS games for the PS2. And until they do, I'm gonna be mad about it.
well mister honorary striker, you don't pay for any of your games/media anyway, how hypocritical of you to complain
OK OK! STOP RIGHT THERE! First of all, I BUY all of my CS games(cause Play-asia is awesome, and I don't support ISO downloading, which means more ways for the games to crash and cause problems, so i will never download ISO's of games, I'm a faithful importer), and yes I download albums, because I'm strapped for cash these days, and I can't afford to buy them. And anyway, You hate the Strikers anyway sherl0k, because their site is more open and public than SOWS. Also, I will call you out on this as well, I don't like SOWS and the way they work OK? They have too many rules to function properly, It's invite only which means other people who want the content from their/your site miss out on some great bemani stuff and what we do with the stuff we download from there should be used at our own risk. We don't need you and a bunch of SOWS moderators snooping and spying around on other bemani related sites watching what we do with the content from there. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! I just had to get that off my chest.
 
Posted by Renard - Mon 08/24 2009 - 04:47 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deca
It's a negligible amount of sales compared to what they make in their target market. It's not secret that most of the players outside of Japan probably pirate the game anyway.
thank you, deca; you seem to be one of the few people here that is able to be miffed and understanding about the situation at the same time.
 
sherl0k Posted by sherl0k - Mon 08/24 2009 - 04:53 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherl0k
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renard
everybody complaining about the lack of Pop'n CS games needs to go and take a long, hard shit.
Why shouldn't we be allowed to complain? I've never played 15, 16, 17, and I'm probably never gonna get to play 18 either. Our arcade near me only has 14, and it's gotten boring. I wanna get a chance to play the other games too, and it's not fair that Konami refuses to announce any new CS games for the PS2. And until they do, I'm gonna be mad about it.
well mister honorary striker, you don't pay for any of your games/media anyway, how hypocritical of you to complain
OK OK! STOP RIGHT THERE! First of all, I BUY all of my CS games(cause Play-asia is awesome, and I don't support ISO downloading, which means more ways for the games to crash and cause problems, so i will never download ISO's of games, I'm a faithful importer), and yes I download albums, because I'm strapped for cash these days, and I can't afford to buy them. And anyway, You hate the Strikers anyway sherl0k, because their site is more open and public than SOWS. Also, I will call you out on this as well, I don't like SOWS and the way they work OK? They have too many rules to function properly, It's invite only which means other people who want the content from their/your site miss out on some great bemani stuff and what we do with the stuff we download from there should be used at our own risk. We don't need you and a bunch of SOWS moderators snooping and spying around on other bemani related sites watching what we do with the content from there. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! I just had to get that off my chest.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this is priceless
 
sherl0k Posted by sherl0k - Mon 08/24 2009 - 05:05 PM     [ quote ]  
also being a "sometimes pirate" is somehow ethically better than being an "all the time pirate" you're right on the money, scrub.
 
Bolt-edge Posted by Bolt-edge - Mon 08/24 2009 - 05:06 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherl0k
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renard
everybody complaining about the lack of Pop'n CS games needs to go and take a long, hard shit.
Why shouldn't we be allowed to complain? I've never played 15, 16, 17, and I'm probably never gonna get to play 18 either. Our arcade near me only has 14, and it's gotten boring. I wanna get a chance to play the other games too, and it's not fair that Konami refuses to announce any new CS games for the PS2. And until they do, I'm gonna be mad about it.
well mister honorary striker, you don't pay for any of your games/media anyway, how hypocritical of you to complain
OK OK! STOP RIGHT THERE! First of all, I BUY all of my CS games(cause Play-asia is awesome, and I don't support ISO downloading, which means more ways for the games to crash and cause problems, so i will never download ISO's of games, I'm a faithful importer), and yes I download albums, because I'm strapped for cash these days, and I can't afford to buy them. And anyway, You hate the Strikers anyway sherl0k, because their site is more open and public than SOWS. Also, I will call you out on this as well, I don't like SOWS and the way they work OK? They have too many rules to function properly, It's invite only which means other people who want the content from their/your site miss out on some great bemani stuff and what we do with the stuff we download from there should be used at our own risk. We don't need you and a bunch of SOWS moderators snooping and spying around on other bemani related sites watching what we do with the content from there. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! I just had to get that off my chest.
djjeff they're after you. Run!
 
sherl0k Posted by sherl0k - Mon 08/24 2009 - 05:29 PM     [ quote ]  
hey djjeff don't you have some simfiles to steal and claim as your own?
 
Mint Mania IIDX Posted by Mint Mania IIDX - Mon 08/24 2009 - 06:54 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
I don't like the way you run things, so I'm going to steal your stuff and give it all away under the guise that they're my own releases. Stop picking on me!
heh
 
djgiza Posted by djgiza - Mon 08/24 2009 - 07:26 PM     [ quote ]  
um everyone knows that sherl0k is the sh*T
p.s thanks for the empress bms's , Now i owe sherl0k my LIFE.
 
Xythar Posted by Xythar - Mon 08/24 2009 - 07:31 PM     [ quote ]  
Yeah it's pretty damn shitty that Konami have refused to release home versions of anything past Fever (ESPECIALLY since Adventure is the best Pop'n). Telling other people not to complain because you personally don't care about it is kind of egocentric.

FYI, I've bought every Pop'n game on PS2 except that puzzle taisen game.
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Mon 08/24 2009 - 08:15 PM     [ quote ]  
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Originally Posted by sherl0k
hey djjeff don't you have some simfiles to steal and claim as your own?
How dare you even bring that up! I'm a different person now, and there's no reason for that. FYI I'm collaborating with DMaxel and a few others on a project of our own, so shove it! And F&%$ you Mint Mania IIDX, If I have an opinion, I'm going to express it, and no....... You know what, whatever. Thanks a lot guy's, I see the community still hasnt gotten out from the bottomless pit of s&%$ it's still in(Talking about the few people in this community who still have some kind of grudge against me). Anyone who is still on my side with this whole web of s%$#, thanks. Anyone who has a problem with me can go shove it. Like I said, your not gonna deter me from this community, so your wasting your time.
 
PatamonKid Posted by PatamonKid - Mon 08/24 2009 - 09:27 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherl0k
hey djjeff don't you have some simfiles to steal and claim as your own?
How dare you even bring that up! I'm a different person now, and there's no reason for that. FYI I'm collaborating with DMaxel and a few others on a project of our own, so shove it! And F&%$ you Mint Mania IIDX, If I have an opinion, I'm going to express it, and no....... You know what, whatever. Thanks a lot guy's, I see the community still hasnt gotten out from the bottomless pit of s&%$ it's still in(Talking about the few people in this community who still have some kind of grudge against me). Anyone who is still on my side with this whole web of s%$#, thanks. Anyone who has a problem with me can go shove it. Like I said, your not gonna deter me from this community, so your wasting your time.
u mad
 
Derkomai Posted by Derkomai - Mon 08/24 2009 - 09:53 PM     [ quote ]  
DJjeff, it's not like you're that good at Pop'n anyway. Try playing IIDX without Auto-Scratch first before you start complaining about crap.

Also, the only reason you hate SOWS is because you didn't know how to seed. I've never seen anyone stupid enough to download something worth 22 gigs TWICE. You were also dumb enough to make a video on it, so don't even go about that, "I DON'T PIRATE CRAP" stuff.

Your attempts to sound like you're reasonable are failing pretty hard.


 
Pakachu Posted by Pakachu - Mon 08/24 2009 - 10:00 PM     [ quote ]  
Lol what did I just read? Anyways, yay for new popn.
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Mon 08/24 2009 - 10:21 PM     [ quote ]  
Derkomai, I didn't say I dont pirate stuff, but whatever. I can voice my feelings and opinions if I want, and no one is gonna tell me otherwise.
 
Derkomai Posted by Derkomai - Mon 08/24 2009 - 10:38 PM     [ quote ]  
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Originally Posted by DJjeff
Derkomai, I didn't say I dont pirate stuff, but whatever, I can voice my feelings and opinions if I want, and no one is gonna tell me otherwise.
Go right ahead with that, but it still doesn't change the fact that you pirate stuff and doing that says that "you don't support your favorite developers".

Seriously though, stop playing on Auto-Scratch. You wanna prove you're good in IIDX? Then play the game the way it's meant to be played instead of playing with a damn crutch.
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Mon 08/24 2009 - 10:41 PM     [ quote ]  
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Originally Posted by Derkomai
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Originally Posted by DJjeff
Derkomai, I didn't say I dont pirate stuff, but whatever, I can voice my feelings and opinions if I want, and no one is gonna tell me otherwise.
Go right ahead with that, but it still doesn't change the fact that you pirate stuff and doing that says that "you don't support your favorite developers".Seriously though, stop playing on Auto-Scratch. You wanna prove you're good in IIDX? Then play the game the way it's meant to be played instead of playing with a damn crutch.
Your right about IIDX. I actually have been learning to play without auto-scratch. It's tough, but I will get used to it. And i also have been getting better in Pop'n. I can do up to 37's now. And the only reason I download stuff is because I can't afford the real stuff. If i had the money, I would buy them in a heartbeat. I need a new job T.T *sigh*
 
Joe P. Posted by Joe P. - Mon 08/24 2009 - 11:39 PM     [ quote ]  
Man pop'n music 18 looks exciting.
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Tue 08/25 2009 - 12:16 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
And i also have been getting better in Pop'n. I can do up to 37's now.
I can play up to 40... on a Dual Shock... with the default button configuration. :P Now go and buy the games.
 
Bolt-edge Posted by Bolt-edge - Tue 08/25 2009 - 12:32 AM     [ quote ]  
djjeff mad
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Tue 08/25 2009 - 03:22 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xzyx987X
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
And i also have been getting better in Pop'n. I can do up to 37's now.
I can play up to 40... on a Dual Shock... with the default button configuration. :P Now go and buy the games.
I did, check my youtube channel. Click on my video "My Music Game Collection" It shows I indeed have legit copies of IIDX and Pop'n. Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NupGL...e=channel_page

I wasn't lying when I said I never download ISO's. I'm against that. I will always stick with legit. And thats pretty awesome that you can play Pop'n on a Dualshock. But I think I'l stick with a Pop'n controller. And if you havent seen my other videos of me playing pop'n, check them out on my channel.
 
Creed Bratton Posted by Creed Bratton - Tue 08/25 2009 - 03:28 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Derkomai, I didn't say I dont pirate stuff, but whatever. I can voice my feelings and opinions if I want, and no one is gonna tell me otherwise.
Because you're above the law, right? DJjeff, completely ban-proof! Ph33r!
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Tue 08/25 2009 - 03:52 AM     [ quote ]  
God what happened in here :/
 
sherl0k Posted by sherl0k - Tue 08/25 2009 - 04:15 AM     [ quote ]  
it looks like djjeff had a meltdown because he's been called out
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Tue 08/25 2009 - 11:20 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deca
God what happened in here :/
That's what I'd like to know. I was just kindly voicing my opinion on the lack of Pop'n music CS games, and it turned into a personal attack on me about what happened in the past. They can bash me all they want, but the reality is, their the ones who look bad, because they can't let go of things. They lie in wait for the people to say something who they still hold a grudge against for some reason or another, and make them look like the bad guy in front of the whole community to attempt to either get a rise out of the person for self enjoyment or get people on their side and continue to bash him in front of the community. There's obviously some deeper reason why these people do this, probably because they hate themselves or something to that affect, and thats sad. I feel sorry for you, but the bottom line on this situation is, people seriously need to grow the f&%# up and move on.
 
Bolt-edge Posted by Bolt-edge - Tue 08/25 2009 - 12:08 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deca
God what happened in here :/
That's what I'd like to know. I was just kindly voicing my opinion on the lack of Pop'n music CS games, and it turned into a personal attack on me about what happened in the past. They can bash me all they want, but the reality is, their the ones who look bad, because they can't let go of things. They lie in wait for the people to say something who they still hold a grudge against for some reason or another, and make them look like the bad guy in front of the whole community to attempt to either get a rise out of the person for self enjoyment or get people on their side and continue to bash him in front of the community. There's obviously some deeper reason why these people do this, probably because they hate themselves or something to that affect, and thats sad. I feel sorry for you, but the bottom line on this situation is, people seriously need to grow the f&%# up and move on.
:) :)
 
Posted by Vantain - Tue 08/25 2009 - 12:20 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arbel
I don't have any sales data on the games, but I highly doubt CS mixes make much for Konami compared to IIDX.
Actually, according to Famitsu's yearly sales records, pop'n CS sells right around the same as IIDX CS:

pop'n music 12 Iroha (2006/03/02): 28,991
pop'n music 13 Carnival (2006/09/28): 27,556
pop'n music 14 Fever (2007/07/12): 35,608

beatmania IIDX 11 IIDXRED (2006/05/18): 28,831
beatmania IIDX 12 Happy Sky (2006/12/14): 22,828
beatmania IIDX 13 Distorted (2007/08/30): 28,415
beatmania IIDX 14 Gold (2008/05/29): 35,276
 
sherl0k Posted by sherl0k - Tue 08/25 2009 - 04:22 PM     [ quote ]  
if by "the past" we mean "shit that still goes on" then sure, it's the past, and i will just forget that the simfiles on the break's machine that you claim are yours aren't really yours.

but that's here nor there, we still respect you djjeff!
 
Dan. Posted by Dan. - Tue 08/25 2009 - 06:05 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherl0k
if by "the past" we mean "shit that still goes on" then sure, it's the past, and i will just forget that the simfiles on the break's machine that you claim are yours aren't really yours.
Just for the record, the 'pack in question' here was removed from the break's machine several weeks ago.

Jeff does buy his bemani games legit however, I can vouch for that since he graciously let us use his DJ Troopers ps2 disc for the kotc2 tournament this weekend.
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Tue 08/25 2009 - 06:20 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vantain
pop'n music 12 Iroha (2006/03/02): 28,991
pop'n music 13 Carnival (2006/09/28): 27,556
pop'n music 14 Fever (2007/07/12): 35,608

beatmania IIDX 11 IIDXRED (2006/05/18): 28,831
beatmania IIDX 12 Happy Sky (2006/12/14): 22,828
beatmania IIDX 13 Distorted (2007/08/30): 28,415
beatmania IIDX 14 Gold (2008/05/29): 35,276
Aha, there we have it. So not only is pop'n music ahead of the curve in terms of music game sales in Japan, that also proves that import sales matter. Because when you are selling a game you only expect to move ~= 30,000 units, losing even 1,000 of those units in sales is huge. So the attitude that the import scene is somehow irrelevant to Konami is false as well.
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Tue 08/25 2009 - 07:26 PM     [ quote ]  
If those sales figures are in fact accurate then I can't say I know what the deal is. Was there a hardware change between 14 and 15? If there was it would make sense for them to wait until they migrate other franchises to a new console before coding the CS releases.
 
Xythar Posted by Xythar - Tue 08/25 2009 - 08:01 PM     [ quote ]  
Yes there was a hardware change between 14 and 15, switched from Firebeat to what I believe was a custom BemaniPC type setup.

But then essentially the same hardware change occurred between 8th and 9th Style in IIDX and it happened a good 3 years earlier or so, didn't seem to stop them then so I'm not quite sure what the holdup is now.
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Tue 08/25 2009 - 09:29 PM     [ quote ]  
And just for the record again, I never claimed the simfiles to be my own, nor did I say recently that they were mine. And yes, the pack was removed from the breaks machine, it wasnt right to keep it on there when a majority of them werent mine. But I'm over all of this. Time to move forward with this new Simpack me and a few others are working on.
 
cstarflare Posted by cstarflare - Tue 08/25 2009 - 09:29 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherl0k
if by "the past" we mean "shit that still goes on" then sure, it's the past, and i will just forget that the simfiles on the break's machine that you claim are yours aren't really yours.but that's here nor there, we still respect you djjeff!
sherlock I know you outrank me on the 'style but djjeff deserves much more respect than you and your possey have been giving him

I don't care you you guys talk crap on SOWS but I think this needs to stop here

just a suggestion though >.> sir
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Tue 08/25 2009 - 11:14 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xythar
Yes there was a hardware change between 14 and 15, switched from Firebeat to what I believe was a custom BemaniPC type setup.

But then essentially the same hardware change occurred between 8th and 9th Style in IIDX and it happened a good 3 years earlier or so, didn't seem to stop them then so I'm not quite sure what the holdup is now.
I'm just thinking that they might hold off if they're considering moving all of bemani to a next gen system. No reason to recode it for one release and then have to code it from scratch for the new platform on the next release. That could also explain the holdup on GFDM since there was a hardware change between V3 and V4.

Of course this idea would be undone if there have been any hardware changes on 2dx past Distorted.
 
Derkomai Posted by Derkomai - Tue 08/25 2009 - 11:18 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
And just for the record again, I never claimed the simfiles to be my own, nor did I say recently that they were mine. And yes, the pack was removed from the breaks machine, it wasnt right to keep it on there when a majority of them werent mine. But I'm over all of this. Time to move forward with this new Simpack me and a few others are working on.
It still doesn't change the fact you took people's files and compiled them into a pack without their permission. Had you gotten permission from all the people who had taken files from to compile the pack, then maybe it wouldn't have been such a big deal.
 
DJjeff Posted by DJjeff - Wed 08/26 2009 - 01:29 AM     [ quote ]  
CStarFlare, thank you :). I do deserve more respect than this, and I am officially done with this. My opinion on the lack of Pop'n CS games did not have to erupt into this web of s&$# that is now present for everyone to see. I'm moving on while the rest of you can continue to bash me about something everyone should have gotten over by now. Thanks a lot guys :(
 
sherl0k Posted by sherl0k - Wed 08/26 2009 - 03:10 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by CStarFlare
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherl0k
if by "the past" we mean "shit that still goes on" then sure, it's the past, and i will just forget that the simfiles on the break's machine that you claim are yours aren't really yours.but that's here nor there, we still respect you djjeff!
sherlock I know you outrank me on the 'style but djjeff deserves much more respect than you and your possey have been giving him

I don't care you you guys talk crap on SOWS but I think this needs to stop here

just a suggestion though >.> sir
a wild honorary striker appears

cstar go fuck a duck you meanie head :(
 
Xythar Posted by Xythar - Wed 08/26 2009 - 07:23 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derkomai
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJjeff
And just for the record again, I never claimed the simfiles to be my own, nor did I say recently that they were mine. And yes, the pack was removed from the breaks machine, it wasnt right to keep it on there when a majority of them werent mine. But I'm over all of this. Time to move forward with this new Simpack me and a few others are working on.
It still doesn't change the fact you took people's files and compiled them into a pack without their permission. Had you gotten permission from all the people who had taken files from to compile the pack, then maybe it wouldn't have been such a big deal.
Which there have been, 9th to DD run on the standard BemaniPC and I believe Gold and up run on a modified Taito Type X2. Although that's not really as significant a change as the Pop'n 14 to 15 one (not sure about GFDM V3 to V4)
 
cstarflare Posted by cstarflare - Wed 08/26 2009 - 09:51 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherl0k
a wild honorary striker appears

cstar go fuck a duck you meanie head :(
I'm sorry sherlock but maybe being on the receiving end of some negative energy will help you build some empathy
 
Deca Posted by Deca - Wed 08/26 2009 - 12:54 PM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xythar
Which there have been, 9th to DD run on the standard BemaniPC and I believe Gold and up run on a modified Taito Type X2. Although that's not really as significant a change as the Pop'n 14 to 15 one (not sure about GFDM V3 to V4)
Hm, if it was right between DD and Gold and there haven't been any since it might be reasonable that they'd push the cutoff back enough to get some more games out...I dunno, I'm just trying to make sense out of the situation one way or another.
 
Uno-kun Posted by Uno-kun - Wed 08/26 2009 - 09:04 PM     [ quote ]  
:\ you'd think Konami would say something at least, even "sorry gais we're not doing CS releases anymore"
 
MizukiKazakaru Posted by MizukiKazakaru - Wed 08/26 2009 - 11:46 PM     [ quote ]  
YES.
I have been eagerly awaiting a new Pop'n Music.
Especially given that every three games since 6, Roku gets an appearance and a new song.

UNF. ROKU.

As for the CS arguement, I've given up on that ages ago.
I'm perfectly content with what copies of the game that I have.
 
kannazuki Posted by kannazuki - Thu 08/27 2009 - 08:13 AM     [ quote ]  
Has anybody considered that the Wii game, in Konami's eyes - may be the new CS? :p
 
Posted by Xzyx987X - Thu 08/27 2009 - 12:46 PM     [ quote ]  
I think we are all trying not to think about that.
 
Arbel Posted by Arbel - Fri 08/28 2009 - 09:42 AM     [ quote ]  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vantain
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arbel
I don't have any sales data on the games, but I highly doubt CS mixes make much for Konami compared to IIDX.
Actually, according to Famitsu's yearly sales records, pop'n CS sells right around the same as IIDX CS:

pop'n music 12 Iroha (2006/03/02): 28,991
pop'n music 13 Carnival (2006/09/28): 27,556
pop'n music 14 Fever (2007/07/12): 35,608

beatmania IIDX 11 IIDXRED (2006/05/18): 28,831
beatmania IIDX 12 Happy Sky (2006/12/14): 22,828
beatmania IIDX 13 Distorted (2007/08/30): 28,415
beatmania IIDX 14 Gold (2008/05/29): 35,276
Very interesting. Thanks for the information. I've always wondered how well CS games (for both IIDX and Pop'n) sold.
 
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