Rumor Smashed: First GH Arcade Pic from IAAPA Setup
Posted by nestlekwik - Mon 11/17 2008 - 11:16 AM - 5621 Views
We've created quite a buzz, but, yeah, some of you are still skeptical. You want proof. That's not too abnormal - when someone makes a claim, you have to support it with proof. We said we had a very reliable source on our Guitar Hero rumor and that same source has forwarded us the very first photo of the Guitar Hero cabinets from the floor of International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions' Orlando, Fla., event set to begin tomorrow.
Every physical aspect we posted about for the "rumored" Guitar Hero cab are present in these pics: At the top of the cabinet, you'll see the Raw Thrills and Activision logos, and, what is that on the left - it's Konami's logo! The LED lights are clearly at the bottom of the screen and appear to change color - maybe just at random, but perhaps along to in-game occurrences. Finally, the screens are wide and it's easy to believe these rank in at at least 32 inches.
Obviously, screens can't confirm the Internet contests, but that will most likely be talked about during the show.
The side panel features the Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock Judy Nails along with logos very similar to the ones used in that game. The guitar controllers on stock in photo appear to be the ones used in Guitar Hero: World Tour, which really begs a question: Eddie and I do not see wires and we notice what appear to be CS guitar controller boxes on the ground. Can these cabs wirelessly sync up to your personal, beloved home guitar controller?
Edit: The answer appears to be no. When asked, our source indicated Raw Thrills will be developing its own controllers from scratch. While the guitars will be original, they are slated to maintain the look of Guitar Hero: World Tour's guitars. It was said Raw Thrills "really wants to try wireless sync ... but it won't ship that way."
Overall, though, the cabinet looks very aesthetically attractive and we can see there are two selector buttons (red and blue) that appears to indicate the machine will be for two players. Also, we're digging the foot rests housed on both sides of the cabinet - I know I like to put a foot up and rest the guitar on my knee in Guitar Freaks.
In the photo, you'll also clearly see in the background, the reported American Idol cabinet (I'm going to guess the tagline on the cab says "Star Studio"). If we come across news on the cabinet, we'll be sure to post more about it.
I've made sure to attach the full-size photo along with the story and you can be sure we'll continue to follow this cabinet, and any other music game cabs, with more details as they develop through the course of IAAPA.
Rating: 12 Positive | 22 Negative
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Posted by dickrazor - Mon 11/17 2008 - 11:52 AM [ quote ]
Amazing.
also first
Posted by ranatalus - Mon 11/17 2008 - 11:53 AM [ quote ]
In before whining from TripMachina about Konami of America.
This looks pretty cool, actually. Considering that GuitarFreaks has extremely little chance of ever really making it over here, it's nice that we can at least get this instead.
That looks pretty nice, yeah. Also, yeah, those four lights on the bottom do look really DDR, haha.
In the meantime, I wonder how it happened: like, did Activision ask Konami or did Raw Thrills ask Konami or did Konami ask Activision if/when Activision told Konami "btw we're making GH AC"?
KONAMI IS ONLY DOING THIS FOR THE MONEY OMG HEARTLESS CORPORATION
I mean wtg hi5 I don't see anybody who does NOT benefit from this arrangement tbh
Posted by eddie - Mon 11/17 2008 - 12:17 PM [ quote ]
From what we've been told, the partnership is largely due to Konami owning the patents on the guitar controllers. And since Konami already has the means to distribute and produce arcade cabs, it was just a natural fit.
Which means if they can make these without Betson, they can make DDRX without betson.
Posted by eddie - Mon 11/17 2008 - 12:46 PM [ quote ]
When did anyone say that DDRX was being made with or by betson? All of Konami's operations over the past year in the US (test or otherwise) have been strictly Konami. They still have a good relationship with Betson, but I'm pretty sure that they're not the ones running the show anymore.
I'm pretty sure I've said this in response to similar comments you've made about Betson's involvement on the forums too. Why are you still so convinced?
From what we've been told, the partnership is largely due to Konami owning the patents on the guitar controllers. And since Konami already has the means to distribute and produce arcade cabs, it was just a natural fit.
From what we've been told, the partnership is largely due to Konami owning the patents on the guitar controllers. And since Konami already has the means to distribute and produce arcade cabs, it was just a natural fit.
Curious though, Konami's producing arcade cabinets for Guitar Hero but what about the whole thing with Konami doing the location test for GF&dm in the States? Is it going to be canned like IIDX was or is Konami is going to possibly plan to release it over here?
I mean, it's great that Konami has a hand in doing this and everything, because we know it'll sell well and that's good for Konami and it'll probably have great songs, I'm just curious if Konami still might have plans to do their own franchises (besides DDR and most likely (J)ubeat) in US Arcades.
Curious though, Konami's producing arcade cabinets for Guitar Hero but what about the whole thing with Konami doing the location test for GF&dm in the States? Is it going to be canned like IIDX was or is Konami is going to possibly plan to release it over here?I mean, it's great that Konami has a hand in doing this and everything, because we know it'll sell well and that's good for Konami and it'll probably have great songs, I'm just curious if Konami still might have plans to do their own franchises (besides DDR and most likely (J)ubeat) in US Arcades.
Good question, however, given they are going ahead with this they might hold up at least for a while to release more competition to their own arcade game. Though I do wish they'll eventually release GF/DM.
Look it on the bright side though, they at least decided to make GH AC, instead of Rock Revolution AC...
I know times have changed, but I can't help but be a bit bummed that Konami is working with Activision on this, but refused to work with Roxor on ITG a few years back. Oh well...
Also...while I like the concept of an arcade GH, I'm kind of dreading what will come out of Raw Thrills. I mean...these people aren't exactly known for their quality line-up. The Fast And The Furious? Target: Terror? It's too bad that one of the existing GH developers couldn't have worked on it. I guess we'll see what happens.
When did anyone say that DDRX was being made with or by betson? All of Konami's operations over the past year in the US (test or otherwise) have been strictly Konami. They still have a good relationship with Betson, but I'm pretty sure that they're not the ones running the show anymore.
I'm pretty sure I've said this in response to similar comments you've made about Betson's involvement on the forums too. Why are you still so convinced?
I never said DDRX was being made by Betson.
I am just inputting saying that if Konami can make GH cabinets and release within the USA, they can make DDRX fine without Betson.
I am just inputting saying that if Konami can make GH cabinets and release within the USA, they can make DDRX fine without Betson.
But... you just contradicted yourself.
Posted by snapps - Tue 11/18 2008 - 12:02 AM [ quote ]
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I never said DDRX was being made by Betson.
I am just inputting saying that if Konami can make GH cabinets and release within the USA, they can make DDRX fine without Betson.
But... you just contradicted yourself.
They can make DDRX without Betson meaning since Betson had a hand in SN2, it does not mean they have to have a hand in X because again they can build and release within the USA on their own.
I think I need a direct quote because I don't see where i'm contradicting myself.
Posted by June.H - Tue 11/18 2008 - 12:38 AM [ quote ]
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Originally Posted by Snapps
I never said DDRX was being made by Betson.
I am just inputting saying that if Konami can make GH cabinets and release within the USA, they can make DDRX fine without Betson.
But... you just contradicted yourself.
They can make DDRX without Betson meaning since Betson had a hand in SN2, it does not mean they have to have a hand in X because again they can build and release within the USA on their own.
I think I need a direct quote because I don't see where i'm contradicting myself.
Uh, I like how everyone seems to be overlooking that Raw Thrills also had a hand in this. Raw Thrills also develops several arcade games too, it's not like those cabs come from thin air. I think Konami probably worked with Raw Thrills to develop the cab. Being that Raw Thrills is based out of Chicago and Betson also has a sizable branch office here too, it's possible they all could be working with Konami for the cabinet.
Posted by Deca - Tue 11/18 2008 - 02:57 AM [ quote ]
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I know times have changed, but I can't help but be a bit bummed that Konami is working with Activision on this, but refused to work with Roxor on ITG a few years back. Oh well...
Also...while I like the concept of an arcade GH, I'm kind of dreading what will come out of Raw Thrills. I mean...these people aren't exactly known for their quality line-up. The Fast And The Furious? Target: Terror? It's too bad that one of the existing GH developers couldn't have worked on it. I guess we'll see what happens.
I dunno after that GH:WT abomination I've lost all respect for Neversoft. I really tried to enjoy that game but jesus christ it was terrible.
Curious to know what hardware it's running on, if it's PS3 based, 360 based, or PC based.
Hmmm, maybe it might be running on BEM...I mean, ActivisionPC. =P
I didn't know that Raw Thrills developed other arcade games; this answers alot of questions about how those cabs came to be. Those machines look so real in the picture... ^^;
In before Konami announces buyout of Activision :s
More accurately, in before ActivisionBlizzard buys Konami, or at least the Bemani unit. They're probably paying out about as much in royalties to Konami as it probably would be to buy the Bemani unit outright...
Personally, I think this is a pretty cool idea, it might actually bring some life back into the arcade scene especially if it has a massive songlist. It can't really be dissed yet till we see what's done with it, but if they use world tour esque layouts.. oh lord....
Posted by Oni-91 - Tue 11/18 2008 - 11:43 AM [ quote ]
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I know times have changed, but I can't help but be a bit bummed that Konami is working with Activision on this, but refused to work with Roxor on ITG a few years back.
I think it all stemmed down to Activision/Harmonix giving Konami royalties and Roxor didn't. However, I could be wrong. I usually am.
Anyway, it looks great. My main problem with this, though, is that if/when it gets released in Europe, my arcade's going to buy it, removing the DDR machine because 'it's the same thing'. Erasing the years of effort I've put into trying to get them to change their Fusion to an SN.
I know times have changed, but I can't help but be a bit bummed that Konami is working with Activision on this, but refused to work with Roxor on ITG a few years back.
I think it all stemmed down to Activision/Harmonix giving Konami royalties and Roxor didn't.
That is completely false information. Roxor/Betson offered Konami a huge sum of all profits from the ITG series and Konami refused to allow ITG to continue to exist. (Even Betson tried to have it "re-produced") As much as people hate on ITG, dance games were a lot more popular for arcade income when ITG existed in it's prime. If you don't believe that now, look at the lack of locations getting any DDR product past SuperNOVA. Dance games are continuing a downward spiral of earnings for public locations in these current times. Guitar Hero might just be something that replaces them because of it's more compatible American gameplay style. IE - Not looking bazar while playing dance games...
Posted by bacon - Tue 11/25 2008 - 04:02 AM [ quote ]
I think Activision has a lot more money than Roxor.. Also how was Betson ever related to this? I don't remember Betson having any ties to ITG ;x
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