Scratch Shows Off Its Deck Once Again
Posted by nestlekwik - Tue 11/03 2009 - 06:19 PM - 598 Views
Here we have another video for Scratch: The Ultimate DJ touting the specialized Scratch Deck packed with the game courtesy of Numark. This vid compares the Scratch Deck to the equipment the company develops for musicians and features Mix Master Mike, who has had a hand in the progress of the title. While you aren't going to see any real Scratch gameplay in the video, it seems plausible that Commotion will have to flesh out gameplay details some time soon. As always, we'll be sure to keep everyone updated on the game's progress.
The whole ghetto/badass approach to the game is kinda turning me off. The game could be awesome, and I seem to remember reading that the controller could be used as an actual piece of music production hardware which is badass, but in comparison DJ Hero's advertising/music selection/gameplay was much more approachable for new players.
I kinda see this one crashing and burning, even with the Numark brand behind it.
Posted by Ashura96 - Wed 11/04 2009 - 01:59 AM [ quote ]
How much money would it take to get him to say the same thing about iidx? :P
Or where was this kind of support for bmus? :(
Posted by RESG - Wed 11/04 2009 - 06:00 AM [ quote ]
All hail Numark NS7.
Hail falls on ScratchDeck.
Posted by Hair - Wed 11/04 2009 - 10:06 AM [ quote ]
I am now officially interested in this game. I thiink that DJ Hero is going to be more popular of the two, but if the harder difficulties somehow are able to make you have to perform realstic turntable/crossfade techniques, it could easily get a dedicated cult following. It's still a shame they kind of copped out on the button layout to mimick Guitar Hero etc though.
I don't think DJ Numark has EVER played or heard of beatmania...or know Konami's notorious suing record. TSK TSK TSK. Either way, since the button scheme is different enough, maybe Konami won't sue....MAYBE.
@Ashura96: I can state my own opinions so you can get out.
The fact of the matter is, making a rhythm game and even remotely trying to say it's like the real thing is fucking retarded. This is like one thing Konami is amazing at: they just make a rhythm game that's fun to play and don't call it "real DJ'ing". I mean, you don't see L.E.D. making some IIDX commercial saying "Hey guys by the way, IIDX is like real DJ'ing".
Call me a japan meme if you will, but the fact of the matter is I'm tired of seeing music games in the U.S. without judgement systems or any actual need for accuracy. It's just hit, or miss, where it's just combo-based.
I don't know, I'm just such a techno/hardcore head that I can't stand seeing hip/hop and rap being associated with these DJ games, which is why I'll always go with IIDX, and japanese music games for that matter, because they are covered with music that I adore.
Call me a japan meme if you will, but the fact of the matter is I'm tired of seeing music games in the U.S. without judgement systems or any actual need for accuracy. It's just hit, or miss, where it's just combo-based.
You obviously haven't seen the fucking gameplay footage from E3.
Call me a japan meme if you will, but the fact of the matter is I'm tired of seeing music games in the U.S. without judgement systems or any actual need for accuracy. It's just hit, or miss, where it's just combo-based.
You obviously haven't seen the fucking gameplay footage from E3.
Agreed.
Posted by Hair - Thu 11/05 2009 - 10:33 AM [ quote ]
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If all these 'DJ' style games were aiming for the real thing, why didn't they include two turntables to crossfade between?
I don't know, I'm just such a techno/hardcore head that I can't stand seeing hip/hop and rap being associated with these DJ games, which is why I'll always go with IIDX, and japanese music games for that matter, because they are covered with music that I adore.
The fact of the matter here is, if this game actually properly implements a crossfader and legit scratch techniques, it WILL portray a more realistic recreation of DJing.
Scratching and Beat Juggling are the most demonstrable skills related to DJing. I dunno about you but I don't really have much respect for anyone AS a DJ that isn't a turntablist to some degree. Anyone can learn how to beatmatch in a day and put sets together.
I'm not discrediting any artists musical abilities, this is a discussion about DJing which I'm not entirely sure you have much of a grasp on.
Man I really want this game to be good all of the sudden.
I really hope you can set it up hamster. I don't really wanna have to relearn how to cut to play it (though I guess that would probably actually be good for me)
Man I really want this game to be good all of the sudden.
I really hope you can set it up hamster. I don't really wanna have to relearn how to cut to play it (though I guess that would probably actually be good for me)
I switched to hamster style about a month ago. So much easier to cut. :/ I have the same hopes I guess.
Call me a japan meme if you will, but the fact of the matter is I'm tired of seeing music games in the U.S. without judgement systems or any actual need for accuracy. It's just hit, or miss, where it's just combo-based.
You obviously haven't seen the fucking gameplay footage from E3.
why are you getting so offended about if someone thinks the TIMING mechanics of a game are accurate or not. you make it sound like this is your one chance to be an actual dj throwing your tantrum.
The fact of the matter is, making a rhythm game and even remotely trying to say it's like the real thing is fucking retarded.
I'd say playing drums in pretty much any rhythm game can help you pick up basic skills that translate well over to an actual drumset. Rolls, fills, basic drum beats and the like.
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This is like one thing Konami is amazing at: they just make a rhythm game that's fun to play and don't call it "real DJ'ing"
I still can't understand why people are getting butthurt over this. I could give two shits about how a game is advertised. If it's fun to play, it's fun to play. I didn't buy DJ Hero to recreate the DJ experience, I bought it to hear some good music mixed together and have fun while playing it. It did it's job, and from the looks of it, Scratch looks like it'll be alright as well.
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Call me a japan meme if you will
Japan meme (the fuck is that even supposed to mean)
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but the fact of the matter is I'm tired of seeing music games in the U.S. without judgement systems or any actual need for accuracy. It's just hit, or miss, where it's just combo-based.
This is how shit works here in the US. Bring accuracy judging into the mix and it overcomplicates things for the average gamer. In addition, if the accuracy affects the way the game sounds (example: in IIDX a GOOD rating makes that particular note sound offbeat) then a large portion of the player base will get frustrated and quit because they can't make the song sound right. We can get along fine with IIDX, because it brings a high level of challenge to the genre that a niche group of people (us) enjoy. You can't hate a game company by trying to appeal to a large group of people instead of one small group that keeps whining about the lack of a timing system.
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I don't know, I'm just such a techno/hardcore head that I can't stand seeing hip/hop and rap being associated with these DJ games, which is why I'll always go with IIDX, and japanese music games for that matter, because they are covered with music that I adore.
Again, games here (with the exception of DDR) need a broad range of music to appeal to the US rhythm game fanbase as a whole. Plus, Hiphop and Rap are what a good majority of people associate DJing with, not Electronic music. I personally prefer DnB, Trance, and even J-core music over a lot of the crap in DJ Hero, but the average teenage gamer doesn't.
Posted by MUSCLES - Fri 11/06 2009 - 01:51 AM [ quote ]
Whenever hip hop is discussed on bms it makes me giggle
Posted by Ashura96 - Fri 11/06 2009 - 11:58 AM [ quote ]
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Call me a japan meme if you will, but the fact of the matter is I'm tired of seeing music games in the U.S. without judgement systems or any actual need for accuracy. It's just hit, or miss, where it's just combo-based.
You obviously haven't seen the fucking gameplay footage from E3.
why are you getting so offended about if someone thinks the TIMING mechanics of a game are accurate or not. you make it sound like this is your one chance to be an actual dj throwing your tantrum.
No, I'm just pointing out his ignorance since he would have never said that had he actually seen the gameplay footage.
Well as I still don't see why people want a game that closely relates to DJ'ing because they should probably just go out and actually learn how to DJ if it interests them, but if I had to pick between the two (scratch and hero)....this one takes the cake for being the closest related to DJ'ing.
Tho, as many who have experience have and will say, Numark isn't as respected as Technics or...well...better than Numark companies. But atleast they are trying.
I'll check it out...maybe...I mean real decks are fun for me...so i can't see playing a videogame about it, but this wins for hitting the needle on the head.
Well as I still don't see why people want a game that closely relates to DJ'ing because they should probably just go out and actually learn how to DJ if it interests them, but if I had to pick between the two (scratch and hero)....this one takes the cake for being the closest related to DJ'ing.
Tho, as many who have experience have and will say, Numark isn't as respected as Technics or...well...better than Numark companies. But atleast they are trying.
I'll check it out...maybe...I mean real decks are fun for me...so i can't see playing a videogame about it, but this wins for hitting the needle on the head.
I can't say I ever really see Technics or Vestax putting their name on a video game.
As far as why anyone would want it, I'd assume this is going to cost about 100ish when it drops. A decent setup for turntablism is gonna run you close to 1500 if you buy everything new, maybe 1000 if you hit craigslist or something. And then you still need to buy vinyl, cartridges, speakers, cables, etc etc. If this does a good job of replicating actual scratching it could be close enough to the real thing that some people could do with it all they really would have wanted to do on a real turntable and be perfectly content. I'm sure there are a lot of people who just want a chance to scratch a bit and don't have any intention of really going anywhere with it or learning to juggle.
Also if it does a REALLY good job, and supports loading up your own samples to cut, it would be a much simpler/cheaper way to goof around with what would basically amount to timecode records and xwax. Not that it would be a replacement for proper applications, god no not by a long shot, but it might be suitable for quite a bit of fun.
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